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  • behemoth
    SVSTC?
    • Nov 2002
    • 7750

    #61
    Originally posted by snoopay700
    Who ever said that people who wear it now are racist, i just think it's wrong to wear such an offensive symbol that has so much tied to it. I'm not saying they believe in what it stands for, so you're mistaken. And you can be a history buff and dress the part without the swatstika, it's a distinctive uniform, you know what they're supposed to be, it's not needed.
    But they have it, and they want it to be there.

    Are you offended?

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    • Automaggot68

      #62
      Originally posted by behemoth
      But they have it, and they want it to be there.

      Are you offended?

      Josh:1
      Snoopay:0

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      • IronCore
        all rusted up
        • Apr 2004
        • 142

        #63
        Originally posted by snoopay700
        ... i just think it's wrong to wear such an offensive symbol that has so much tied to it. ...
        ..I think you should explain to people why does the symbols offends you so much, are you a Hindu? youre mad because the westerners had basterdized you symbols and such... saying that a symbol offends you and should not be worn is like being a dictator on the field or maybe youre the fashion police?

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        • snoopay700
          Serious About Men

          • Jan 2006
          • 3071

          #64
          Originally posted by slade
          just stop arguing. youve lost. for a history buff or even most ordinary people it would be necessary, and add to the costume and scenario. it does no harm, whatsoever. what i said before is true. you obviously said one thing, and when confronted instead of withdrawing your statement, are making more arguments and statements simply to avoid giving in.
          Lost what now? It's opinions, so yeah, no one really loses. And besides, i'm not making more arugements, my arguement has stayed the same, you just don't seem to be able to get it through your head that it is the same arguement, that it's wrong for people to wear a swatstika in a paintball game for any reason(when the nonvalid arguement about movies came up i then gave my viewpoint on those, and you will see it if you look back), and that poeple shouldn't wear the nazi uniform outside of WWII themed games. And behemoth, yes, i find that symbol (nazi swatstika) very offending and i hate it with every fiber of my being. Everything it stands for is horrible, there are many reasons for anyone to be offended by it, wether the nazis affected them personally or not. Also, i don't see why you're all attacking me, warbeak and glickman agree with me and expressed their opinions about it.
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by skife
          swastikas should be allowed in WWII theme scenario games.


          as well as punching anyone wears one in the face...'

          oh, not forgetting the required chemical castration

          That was posted by glickman, so i'm not the only one thinking this. However, it seems like replying to you guys is wasting time more than anything because you can't see where i'm coming from or the obvious resons of why it's offensive, such as it being a symbol of antisemitism.
          Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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          • behemoth
            SVSTC?
            • Nov 2002
            • 7750

            #65
            Why is it so offensive?

            Its part of our history.

            Some bad stuff is associated with the swastika, but you cant change that, and someone wearing it isnt going to keep it from going away.

            Just deal.

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            • slade
              Carpe Noctem
              • Apr 2004
              • 3442

              #66
              Originally posted by snoopay700
              Lost what now? It's opinions, so yeah, no one really loses. And besides, i'm not making more arugements, my arguement has stayed the same, you just don't seem to be able to get it through your head that it is the same arguement, that it's wrong for people to wear a swatstika in a paintball game for any reason(when the nonvalid arguement about movies came up i then gave my viewpoint on those, and you will see it if you look back), and that poeple shouldn't wear the nazi uniform outside of WWII themed games. And behemoth, yes, i find that symbol (nazi swatstika) very offending and i hate it with every fiber of my being. Everything it stands for is horrible, there are many reasons for anyone to be offended by it, wether the nazis affected them personally or not. Also, i don't see why you're all attacking me, warbeak and glickman agree with me and expressed their opinions about it.
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by skife
              swastikas should be allowed in WWII theme scenario games.


              as well as punching anyone wears one in the face...'

              oh, not forgetting the required chemical castration

              That was posted by glickman, so i'm not the only one thinking this.
              its not entirely opinions, its an argument.

              and fine, if you care that much about detail, you keep reiterating what youve already said and trying to support a bad statement.

              a symbol is meaningless without intent or beliefs behind it. The only reason to not wear a swatstika is because people will think you support the beliefs associated with it, and in a reinactment or scenario, it would be obvious that you dont.
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              • snoopay700
                Serious About Men

                • Jan 2006
                • 3071

                #67
                Originally posted by behemoth
                Why is it so offensive?

                Its part of our history.

                Some bad stuff is associated with the swastika, but you cant change that, and someone wearing it isnt going to keep it from going away.

                Just deal.
                Part of our history, yes, won't go away, yes, and i know that and i'm not saying it should, it's a reminder of what not to do, but should it be worn in reenactments, no. And so it doesn't have intentions behind it by that person, it is still ofensive because it's still somewhat original, they didn't just take the swatstika and put it on their uinforms, they changed the direction of the legs and put it on a point, so it still stands for all of those things and it's offensive, or do you think a symbol that represents antisemitism isn't offensive?
                Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                • behemoth
                  SVSTC?
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 7750

                  #68
                  Originally posted by snoopay700
                  Part of our history, yes, won't go away, yes, and i know that and i'm not saying it should, it's a reminder of what not to do, but should it be worn in reenactments, no. And so it doesn't have intentions behind it by that person, it is still ofensive because it's still somewhat original, they didn't just take the swatstika and put it on their uinforms, they changed the direction of the legs and put it on a point, so it still stands for all of those things and it's offensive, or do you think a symbol that represents antisemitism isn't offensive?
                  [05:42 PM] slade: i hate it when people assaign too much meaning to something like that
                  [05:42 PM] behemoth: that guys a moron
                  [05:42 PM] slade: yeah
                  [05:42 PM] behemoth: hating on a symbol isnt going to make hitler say he's sorry.
                  [05:42 PM] slade: do you realize the irony of his attitude? "OMG SWATSTIKA! IM GONNA KILL PEOPLE!!!"

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                  • sean33
                    C&C gloss Black X-magXMOD
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 496

                    #69
                    im 5 foot 10 170
                    play MLB and now TE

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                    • Glickman
                      *Insert Witty Phrase*
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2673

                      #70
                      Originally posted by behemoth
                      [05:42 PM] slade: i hate it when people assaign too much meaning to something like that
                      [05:42 PM] behemoth: that guys a moron
                      [05:42 PM] slade: yeah
                      [05:42 PM] behemoth: hating on a symbol isnt going to make hitler say he's sorry.
                      [05:42 PM] slade: do you realize the irony of his attitude? "OMG SWATSTIKA! IM GONNA KILL PEOPLE!!!"

                      nice...

                      do you realize your attitude?

                      its called being insensitive to a group of people.

                      political correctness says you wear a symbol of a group of people for 2 reasons:
                      -Support
                      -Rebellion

                      either way, when it comes to a swatstika, your an ***



                      thanks for trying to be your standard american teenage rebel of psychology. its not wonder everyone thinks were dumb***s. thats because we are.


                      being of small stature i really cant do much physically, but one day when you piss off the wrong guy, expect a 68ci in your nose

                      common sense, along with sensitivity to other groups shouldve been taught in schools....

                      Originally posted by behemoth
                      Why is it so offensive?

                      Its part of our history.

                      Some bad stuff is associated with the swastika, but you cant change that, and someone wearing it isnt going to keep it from going away.

                      Just deal.
                      No you cant change it, and obviously your mental capacity wont allow you to see that noone thinks they can change it, no matter how many times we say it. Someone wearing wont keep it from going away, but what it does do is show either support or rebellion as i stated earlier. Either way, your still and *** for wearing it.



                      maybe we should start reminding kids that there is no such thing as "free speech"
                      Last edited by Glickman; 02-12-2006, 04:54 PM.

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                      • SniperSmurf
                        Now I have a machine gun..
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 502

                        #71
                        OMG... Nazis! Run!!!

                        Originally posted by IronCore
                        or maybe youre the fashion police?
                        Nah, if he were the fashion police, he'd dig their uniforms...
                        Last edited by SniperSmurf; 02-12-2006, 05:22 PM. Reason: Removed pic for all the overly-sensitive PC kiddies out there... HA! No, really, just wanted to avoid bannage...

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                        • slade
                          Carpe Noctem
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 3442

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Glickman
                          political correctness says you wear a symbol of a group of people for 2 reasons:
                          -Support
                          -Rebellion
                          so where the heck is historical reinactment/roleplaying?

                          im sorry, did you miss half the posts in this thread?
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                          • behemoth
                            SVSTC?
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 7750

                            #73
                            Politically Correct,

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                            • Glickman
                              *Insert Witty Phrase*
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2673

                              #74
                              Originally posted by slade
                              so where the heck is historical reinactment/roleplaying?

                              im sorry, did you miss half the posts in this thread?
                              i would give you 100% creditability if thats what you had stated, but thats not what your arguments were about.

                              all of your defense was "whatever, it happend, get over it"

                              obviously your intentions were no to defend the roleplaying factor, which i still have a problem with, but i cant exactly argue with

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                              • slade
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3442

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Glickman
                                i would give you 100% creditability if thats what you had stated, but thats not what your arguments were about.

                                all of your defense was "whatever, it happend, get over it"

                                obviously your intentions were no to defend the roleplaying factor, which i still have a problem with, but i cant exactly argue with
                                youre talking about behemoth.

                                we're two people.
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