Paintball Jerks

[snoopay700]

Actually...Thats more than one person...
I win... hehehe

Note i said without hesitation, his officers were still horrible but they were also under his influence and his false promises, so i would hesitate, not too long, but i would probably still hesitate, but it'd still be easy.

[Death of Rats]

First of all I really don't understand this attitude of "if I see this I will smash them in the face", honestly why can't you go up to them and simply say that I find the symbol you are wearing to be very offensive.

Kindly ask them if they could take it off. If they don't lets try to pretend that you have been part of the thousands of year of civilization and culture that has been formed throughout our history and not go randomly hitting people in the face. If they don't take it off go and ask one of the game coordinators if they could ask them to remove it because you are offended.

If you are the only one that is offended at a WWII recreation game, which very possibly could be true drop it there and don't be a vindictive child of a person and go bonus balling them(Your comments if you actually practice what you preach are what KILL OUR GREAT GAME. Especially don't hit them leading to more episodes of violence. More than likely the person will take it off from the start if they think they are truly offending someone.


Recognize that a person has a right to free speech. The only truly sad thing is that you are the one trying to limit a persons rights. You can't do this, you can't do that. As long as someone doesn't come up to me and try to make me wear a swastika, cross (sign of untold suffering to thousands until very recently and probably still a sign of that in other cultures), Star of David, McDonalds Logo, WalMart or one of the many other symbols of our generation then I truly don't mind.

[BuyMyMag]

I've noticed that paintball attracts a lot of Jerks. Not like other sports. I don't know why some people have to be so mean. At my local field, people get their stuff stolen all the time. And the people are racist and stupid. I personally feel that the demographic which is gravitating towards paintball are the imbecilic, cocksure, lethargic, ADD diagnosed, spoiled, kids of this generation. And fat. Fattys. There is no excuse for a 16 year old to be 270 pounds.

What do you all think. Is it too real for ya'll.

Don't call other people jerks and then go on to make fun of peoples weights. No ones perfect.

[behemoth]

You can try to punch me in the face, but i guarantee i'll knock you one.
- Then, i'll put the swazi on you, and everyone would stomp you :)

And, you're bashing an ENTIRE REGION, thats good.

Since, you know, you've met the population of cleveland and everything...

[snoopay700]

You can try to punch me in the face, but i guarantee i'll knock you one.
- Then, i'll put the swazi on you, and everyone would stomp you :)

And, you're bashing an ENTIRE REGION, thats good.

Since, you know, you've met the population of cleveland and everything...

From my experience most of them act like you, and that's all i'm saying, but you seem to think that saying that they're like you is bashing them, i can't disagree. Oh, Death, i only said i'd punch him because he'd be doing it as an attack on me. And i'm sure you would, because you seem to think that you're better than me in a lot of aspects, fighting being one of them. I'm not saying i'd win because i've never met you and i don't know.

[grEnAlEins]

You can try to punch me in the face, but i guarantee i'll knock you one.
- Then, i'll put the swazi on you, and everyone would stomp you :)

And, you're bashing an ENTIRE REGION, thats good.

Since, you know, you've met the population of cleveland and everything...

To be fair, cleveland is kinda... nevermind, we shall just say I am not a fan of cleveland

In all seriousness, the Swastika is covered under the first amendment. I can wear it, paint it on my car or on my garage door in public display if I so desire. It is my constitutional right. Just where do you, snoopay, derive your "right" to not be offended? Just currious... because nowhere is this "right" explained--nor hinted at--in the constitution.

Snoopay, if I am not allowed to exercise my rights, why should you be able to exercise yours? Are you special or better than me, and how have you arrived at this conclusion? Why does your 1st amendment right to voice concern outwiegh my right to demonstrate my views.

NOTE: I am not a neo-Nazi, and I do not wear the Swastika, but I am curious as to exactly what you, snoopay, are claiming/arguing.

[behemoth]

I've grown bored with this thread.

Ending comments: Dont cry when you see a SYMBOL, Cleveland has nothing to do with the 'few you've met', and lastly, I would knock the hell out of you

I'm done.

[snoopay700]

Behemoth, you keep thinking that, and like i said before, you seem like a lot of people i've met from there and i've encountered. Anyway, i am not claiming it is my right to be offended, i just think that people should have common sense and not wear something that is so offensive to so many people to play paintball. And besides, it's been established that on someone else's property your freedom of speech is quite limited, and you can be banned for wearing it. i just think people should be more sensitive to those it offends, those in the war, camps, children/grandchildren of these people, jewish people, i just don't see outside of movies where you have a role to play what would compel someone to wear that symbol.

[grEnAlEins]

Behemoth, you keep thinking that, and like i said before, you seem like a lot of people i've met from there and i've encountered. Anyway, i am not claiming it is my right to be offended, i just think that people should have common sense and not wear something that is so offensive to so many people to play paintball. And besides, it's been established that on someone else's property your freedom of speech is quite limited, and you can be banned for wearing it. i just think people should be more sensitive to those it offends, those in the war, camps, children/grandchildren of these people, jewish people, i just don't see outside of movies where you have a role to play what would compel someone to wear that symbol.

So you--and in reality I--would not wear a Swastika so that we do not offend others, and that is nice. But that in no way means that displaying a Swastika is actually wrong, just insentive and Aholeish (my new word). The fact is If part of the first amendment falls, it will all fall eventually.

Now let us use your logic, if your vocalization of your concern offends me, then you no longer have the right to do it, so stop...? NO.
That is stupid logic. Either the first amendment exists and is valid with all of the good and bad rhetoric it brings, or it is null and you should stop expressing your feelings. Again as I posted above, I am asking you to clarify your exact position on this issue, please stop dancing around doing so, it may require a lengthy post, but it would be easier if you explained spacifically what part of the first ammendment you dishonor, do not understad, or question. I still do not understand where you derive the idea the the offense taken by people factor into the ability of expression. I am not butting horns with you here, merely asking to to clarrify your position so I can do so later.

As far as your question of motive for expression, that is totally irrelevant. Motive does not matter, the fact remains that these people are actually allowed to display the Swastika.

As far as private property, you have no authority unless it is your property, so you are not able to display a Swastika, nor are you allowed to piss and moan about someone else doing so, unless the owner gives you permission. If the owner allows Swastikas on his property than you have no place to complain. You are however free to leave the property. If you object to how "Bob" runs his field or whatever, then do not go there or pay for his goods/services. A very wise man once said "vote with your dollars." Why not just use this strategy?

[snoopay700]

So you--and in reality I--would not wear a Swastika so that we do not offend others, and that is nice. But that in no way means that displaying a Swastika is actually wrong, just insentive and Aholeish (my new word). The fact is If part of the first amendment falls, it will all fall eventually.

Now let us use your logic, if your vocalization of your concern offends me, then you no longer have the right to do it, so stop...? NO.
That is stupid logic. Either the first amendment exists and is valid with all of the good and bad rhetoric it brings, or it is null and you should stop expressing your feelings. Again as I posted above, I am asking you to clarify your exact position on this issue, please stop dancing around doing so, it may require a lengthy post, but it would be easier if you explained spacifically what part of the first ammendment you dishonor, do not understad, or question. I still do not understand where you derive the idea the the offense taken by people factor into the ability of expression. I am not butting horns with you here, merely asking to to clarrify your position so I can do so later.

As far as your question of motive for expression, that is totally irrelevant. Motive does not matter, the fact remains that these people are actually allowed to display the Swastika.

As far as private property, you have no authority unless it is your property, so you are not able to display a Swastika, nor are you allowed to piss and moan about someone else doing so, unless the owner gives you permission. If the owner allows Swastikas on his property than you have no place to complain. You are however free to leave the property. If you object to how "Bob" runs his field or whatever, then do not go there or pay for his goods/services. A very wise man once said "vote with your dollars." Why not just use this stratagy?

I'll admit, i stopped after reading what you said about rights. I never said they don't have the right to do it, i just said i don't see why people have to wear somehting so offensive that and that stands for such horrible things, but it's become obvious that this won't get through the thick skulls of most of the people here and they'll keep claiming i think things i don't and such, so i'm just going to stop.

[behemoth]

so i'm just going to stop.

Thanks, we owe ya one.

[SniperSmurf]

Ok, you're a moron, there's a difference seeing as that is not from reality. And slade or behemoth, i forget who put "OMG, SWATSTIKA, I'M GONNA KILL PEOPLE!" When did i EVER say i wanted to kill them. The only person i could kill if my life wasn't in danger without hesitation is already dead, and that is hitler, and his officers i could kill easily as well. However, i just said i wanted to bonus ball them for wearing it because it's still a very real thing that still affects so many people to this day, those that were in camps, those that were in the war, the children of these people, jews, wearing that symbol shows you don't care about offending the many people that it offends, and for that i think bonus balling is fine. There's a big difference between that and nazis. But you've all shown you're insensitive to those people, oh, and way to go calling me a moron, from my past experiences, name calling is the last refuge of those without a valid arguement, as is sarcasm.

Wait... Read the first and last sentences of your post there. You start out calling me a moron (but you're really just jealous of my sweet mask) and in the end you say "oh, and way to go calling me a moron, from my past experiences, name calling is the last refuge of those without a valid arguement, as is sarcasm"
Pure genious there buddy. No wonder your arguments are so weak. You undermine yourself, and nobody else even has to lift a finger...

[grEnAlEins]

Wait... Read the first and last sentences of your post there. You start out calling me a moron (but you're really just jealous of my sweet mask) and in the end you say "oh, and way to go calling me a moron, from my past experiences, name calling is the last refuge of those without a valid arguement, as is sarcasm"
Pure genious there buddy. No wonder your arguments are so weak. You undermine yourself, and nobody else even has to lift a finger...

Whoah, good catch snipersmurf, I missed it due to my thick skull

[IronCore]

i don't see why people have to wear somehting so offensive that and that stands for such horrible things, but it's become obvious that this won't get through the thick skulls of most of the people here and they'll keep claiming i think things i don't and such, so i'm just going to stop.

..no, no we get the message clear as it can be - you want to hold a grudge to a group of people. Im pretty sure (about 99.9%) that you have not been in the concentration camp. So you have been taught by your elders (maybe grandfather, uncle or so) to hate, hate and kill. Is that right? do you need to continue to the hate? it will not end you know it will just get bigger until the next time maybe you will be on the other end and you will be the one comitting the genocide, then would that make you happy?

[SniperSmurf]

Whoah, good catch snipersmurf, I missed it due to my thick skull

Better than a thin skull I suppose, especially when dealing with snoopay, who seems willing to bash it at the drop of a hat... Ouch!

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