Just answer the damn poll

[Aslan]

nope

I couldn't...I'd want to....but the most I've ever spent on any single marker/piece of equipment is like $110 on a HPA tank. In total...for 13 markers...2 air tanks...4-8 CO2 tanks...and a bunch of bags/equipment/etc...I've probably spent $1300-$1400 over the course of 5-6 years. And given the resale of paintball stuff...I'd be hard pressed to get back half of what I'd need for the new marker you are proposing.

[VFX_Fenix]

or surpass current markers that are in the market for about the same pricer, such as the DM's PM's timmys ect

Point - Any new gun that comes out of Airgun (or anywhere that isn't established) would need to be competative with current guns in its price range and have all the features of those other guns.

I would be more than interested in seeing what AGD would come out with, I'd also be more than willing to purchase one of these guns if they are, in fact, competative or even better than the competition. I'd also need to have sufficient cash on hand to make such a purchase, and as a "poor college student" that's usually in September and January.

Unfortunately posting a "Would you buy it" thread without anything to look at or even a description of what's being proposed other than it'll cost $XXX or more and be made by X company is like buying realestate futures on an active volcano. Sure, it may turn into a beautiful island one day and you might have some nice beachfront propperty once everything settles down, but what if you don't?

[RRfireblade]

or surpass current markers that are in the market for about the same pricer, such as the DM's PM's timmys ect

The catch there is going to be the fact the I SERIOUSLY doubt Tim will ever biuld/sell a ramping or full auto marker capable of 20+ bps. The pretty goes against everything thing he believes in as far as safety standards are concerned.

Therefore....

Anything 'new' AGD comes out with will be considered 'outdated' out of the box by most , especially the typical internet baller.

[REDRT]

My answer to your poll is no. I already have an Emag for one, but if I get a second one I would most likely go threw Tuna. If I bought new he offers more custom than AGD offers. Just a plain jane Emag isn't my style. I like custom and bling. Maybe if AGD would offer colored ule bodies across the board at a lower set price they would sell better. As of now all black ULE $850, $999 for colors and old twist lock steel bodies, $1065 for tac bodies seems high. I'd say 750 for everything except tac bodies. Tac should be a tad higher. A discount for twist lock bodies. They are not as popular. I think that is more fair than what is currently offered. But I have no idea what AGD has into each marker. I wouldn't want to have them sell at a loss.

[slade]

The catch there is going to be the fact the I SERIOUSLY doubt Tom will ever build/sell a ramping or full auto marker capable of 20+ bps. The pretty goes against everything thing he believes in as far as safety standards are concerned.

Therefore....

Anything 'new' AGD comes out with will be considered 'outdated' out of the box by most , especially the typical internet baller.

so? there are quite a few markers that come from the factory without ramping. Paintballers like upgrading, and im willing to bet someone would put out an aftermarket board for any marker AGD produces.

Its been said before, but to make a successful marker AGD would just have to get rid of the battery pack, have internal air passages, break beam eyes, ditch HES and the hybrid/mechanical modes, make a more reliable bolt system, and maybe add some better milling (like CNC xmags or karta). low pressure and an inline reg couldnt hurt as far as marketing, although its probably not necessary and would require redesigning the valve. making it electropneumatic instead sear tripper would certainly help too.

[fifthmag]

Poll

Drop my current RTP Mag, and Phatom? No. Buy a newly designed E-Mag? Quite possibly. Being a mech fan though, it would have to be able to function if the batteries went down, and all that.

[Recon by Fire]

I didn't vote, there was no applicable answer! I would be willing to buy a new AGD marker, but for it to replace my X-mag it would have to be better, not just new.

[BD_Paintball]

The catch there is going to be the fact the I SERIOUSLY doubt Tim will ever biuld/sell a ramping or full auto marker capable of 20+ bps. The pretty goes against everything thing he believes in as far as safety standards are concerned.

Therefore....

Anything 'new' AGD comes out with will be considered 'outdated' out of the box by most , especially the typical internet baller.

it will also be looks at as outdate to many serious tourney ballers. if it does no have ramping, BB eyes, ect many people will not look at it twice . the people who would buy this gun would be the hard core woodsballers

[RRfireblade]

so? .....

I told you why so.

And no , no ones going ot make an aftermarket board for a marker branded by a dead company...just no demand. (ala predator)

[slade]

I told you why so.

And no , no ones going ot make an aftermarket board for a marker branded by a dead company...just no demand. (ala predator)

if AGD creates a good marker with popular features but no ramping, it will still sell. and if it sells, aftermarket boards will be made for it. The chance of AGD doing that, of course, is slim.

[RRfireblade]

if AGD creates a good marker with popular features but no ramping, it will still sell. and if it sells, aftermarket boards will be made for it. The chance of AGD doing that, of course, is slim.

Slim is right. AGD hasn't had a marker that "sold" in over 5-10 years. The xmag was the closest thing and they weren't even the ones who made it.

No, they'd need a technical marvel to bring them back...30+ bps , 1500+ shots per fill , break beam eyes ( or better ) running under 200psi , under 2lbs and all on a completely different valve system.

That kinda R&D ,adverizing and tooling would run AGD 1-2 Million that they don't have and can't get.

[Beemer]

That kinda R&D ,adverizing and tooling would run AGD 1-2 Million that they don't have and can't get.

How would you know that. Have you seen his bank or checking account?

Dont have cant get is speculation. Maybe more like doesnt want to.
I just had lunch with him on Thursday and could say more but then he might me

The catch there is going to be the fact the I SERIOUSLY doubt Tim will ever biuld/sell a ramping or full auto marker capable of 20+ bps. The pretty goes against everything thing he believes in as far as safety standards are concerned.

I agree. He was the only one of the brain trust trying to follow Standards they all put down.


Peace Out
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[RRfireblade]

How would you know that. Have you seen his bank or checking account?

Dont have cant get is speculation.

Actually Toms stated on this forum a dozen times that that is the case.

[warbeak2099]

Actually Toms stated on this forum a dozen times that that is the case.

Owned by the truth.

[Beemer]

Actually Toms stated on this forum a dozen times that that is the case.

Well show me a link. I am from Missouri.

Owned by the truth.

Show me another link. Two out of a dozen will own me.

PeaceOut