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  • SummaryJudgement
    Selling stuff, good stuff.
    • Aug 2004
    • 1944

    #1

    Does this make sense to anyone?

    http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...AEI%2e9h97NTZ#

    Okay, so I was Ebay earlier and saw someone trying to sell one of these. I initally thought it was some sort of scam. I mean, where the heck did they stuff the noid on that thing. And $270! Isn't that cheaper than new, stand-alone select-fire frames?! $270 for a select-fire trilogy seems low to me. I've seen trilogys going for real cheap on Ebay, but an e-framed version?

    Just thought it was weird......
  • Chronobreak
    Rec Poster
    • Mar 2003
    • 5055

    #2
    wow

    i dont know what else to say

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    • Jotsy
      ya dirty dirty shisno
      • Nov 2004
      • 262

      #3
      hmm interesting..... i see an eye cover, yet it still only has a mechanical 3-way.... so i guess only the sear tripper is electronic? it would be slightly faster than a pure mech... but still... what would the point of the eye be?

      unless they developed a new system where a single solenoid trips both the sear and the 3-way mechanically.... which i guess would be possible considering the suspiciously big bulge in the grips

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      • MoeMag
        Still here.
        • Dec 2005
        • 1821

        #4
        Thats pretty slick.

        Does anyone know more about them? Its a cocker so it cant be too bad can it?

        On a second look... would someone care to explain the sight rail that is part of the body directly behind the feed neck? Same with the automag sight rail... well that is if you are using a ULE body.

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        • SummaryJudgement
          Selling stuff, good stuff.
          • Aug 2004
          • 1944

          #5
          I think it may be some sort of Hyperframe hybrid. Sear tripper, but with vision. I mean you could probably buy one of those, have someone do a halfblock conversion for a hundred bucks, and then sell it for $500

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          • Arstron
            fusionowners.org

            • Mar 2005
            • 2347

            #6
            It says it has a ramping mode so the solenoid inside the trigger frame has to be controling the mech 3way as well... I didnt see any information on it on the wgp site either.

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            • FSU_Paintball
              (well, not any longer)
              • Aug 2002
              • 618

              #7
              Originally posted by SummaryJudgement
              I think it may be some sort of Hyperframe hybrid. Sear tripper, but with vision. I mean you could probably buy one of those, have someone do a halfblock conversion for a hundred bucks, and then sell it for $500
              Eblades are sear trippers too. They're all sear trippers until you remove the sear interface with something like an mQ-valve. That's one reason I moved away from cockers.
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              • SummaryJudgement
                Selling stuff, good stuff.
                • Aug 2004
                • 1944

                #8
                Originally posted by FSU_Paintball
                Eblades are sear trippers too. They're all sear trippers until you remove the sear interface with something like an mQ-valve. That's one reason I moved away from cockers.
                Your're right....I just usually associate "sear-tripper" with older e-frames that never had a noid in place of the three-way....

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                • minimag03
                  WVU paintball #19
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2214

                  #9
                  WGP is late at best when updating their website.

                  This might be the answer to our wishes of a "high end" electro with ramping under $300!
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                  • Jotsy
                    ya dirty dirty shisno
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 262

                    #10
                    you know, if the whole marker already costs $270, i wonder how much the frame alone would cost? it would be a very nice upgrade for mech cocker owners.

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                    • Chronobreak
                      Rec Poster
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5055

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jotsy
                      you know, if the whole marker already costs $270, i wonder how much the frame alone would cost? it would be a very nice upgrade for mech cocker owners.
                      i believe this only works with the trilogies

                      but im sure you could rig it to work

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                      • Dees_Troy
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 4

                        #12
                        Using my eagle eyes (and the 3rd picture on the Action Village site of the blue-to-black fade Trilogy Competition SF), I spotted a T fitting. Look at the 3-way. The middle hose that comes from the LPR to go into the 3-way has a T fitting. Another hose heads back from the 3-way under the "eye cover".

                        I am willing to bet that there is no eye. Instead, the cover extends forward to cover the additional LPR hose that goes into the grip. A closer look at the "eye cover" shows that it is very narrow at the bottom and probably not wide enough to support a standard reflective eye as is common on the eBlades and WorrBlades. Another reason I'm pretty sure that there is no eye is the notable lack of mention of any kind of eye or paint sensing system. Hopefully a cheap upgrade can be offered later.

                        Of course, the T fitting and the extra LPR hose going to the grip should give some further insight as to how the Trilogy SF grip operates. Obviously it will be significantly different than the eBlades and WorrBlades that we've all come to know and love.

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                        • 68magOwner
                          Registered User
                          • May 2003
                          • 3475

                          #13
                          since it still has the 3 way, im going to have to guess that someone went and re-did the cocker hyperframe

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                          • SummaryJudgement
                            Selling stuff, good stuff.
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 1944

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dees_Troy
                            Using my eagle eyes (and the 3rd picture on the Action Village site of the blue-to-black fade Trilogy Competition SF), I spotted a T fitting. Look at the 3-way. The middle hose that comes from the LPR to go into the 3-way has a T fitting. Another hose heads back from the 3-way under the "eye cover".

                            I am willing to bet that there is no eye. Instead, the cover extends forward to cover the additional LPR hose that goes into the grip. A closer look at the "eye cover" shows that it is very narrow at the bottom and probably not wide enough to support a standard reflective eye as is common on the eBlades and WorrBlades. Another reason I'm pretty sure that there is no eye is the notable lack of mention of any kind of eye or paint sensing system. Hopefully a cheap upgrade can be offered later.

                            Of course, the T fitting and the extra LPR hose going to the grip should give some further insight as to how the Trilogy SF grip operates. Obviously it will be significantly different than the eBlades and WorrBlades that we've all come to know and love.
                            I just read your reply on halfcockers.com and came here to update my post! You're at all the right places I guess Dees Troy!

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                            • slade
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3442

                              #15
                              what we know: it has what looks like a mechanical 3-way, and the LP air line goes both to the 3-way and into the frame. my guess would be that inside the frame there is an electropneumatic solenoid that drives a piston to control the mech 3-way, removing the need for an external solenoid on the front block... how they managed to fit that in the frame, well, that must have taken a bit of work.
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