I've never seen a mag valve like this before!?

[Automaggot68]

halving valves is nothing new, and it isnt any more dangerous than the current design if done correctly.

COrrect!


Colin (niCad) has also done this to his own Micro, and it looked awesome.

[fire1811]

hmm is that tournament legal

[Automaggot68]

hmm is that tournament legal

No more or less that an RT/reTro/X valve.

[PnueMagger]

half valve PMI Vert reg (Replaces AIR valve)

A PMI reg gains ROF oever an AIR valve?!?!
Gutting an AIR valve to use a Palmers Stabilizer and CO2 might make sense...

It says in the description that a better reg would've been used if it was going to be kept and not sold.

Yeesh.. there is the right way.... gut reg make a custom machined rear plug insert plug replace with some sort of HPR.... Than theres that way....

I do belive that way is called the emo way. Its just the same as slitting your wrists and drinking bleach.

I'm sure there is a steel "cap" underneath the 3000 lb epoxy. The epoxy was used to seal/lock the threads and cover the back for a smoother look.

Kind of .........butt ugly.

I think I'ts unique and good looking
If you look at what went into it, and the Buy it now price.. You can see it's not going to be a rippoff at all. It's very cheap actually. If I didn't own one already, I'd buy it.

[bleachit]

~ $8 Machine Work ~


that instills confidence in the work done.

[PnueMagger]

lol...

I think it's: Machine Work ~ Priceless (Like those visa commercials)

[SlartyBartFast]

It says in the description that a better reg would've been used if it was going to be kept and not sold.

Too Bad the best reg to use is.....

AN A.I.R. Valve !

--- so why can't i use one reg to controll everything ?

Because it isn't the best way to do things.

For consistency, 2 regulators is best. Those two regulators are the one from your tank, and the AIR valve on the back of the Mag.

Ah, but what do I know? Why trust engineers, people in the pneumatics industry, and the very intelligent designers that make pneumatic equipment?

[bleachit]

Ah, but what do I know? Why trust engineers, people in the pneumatics industry, and the very intelligent designers that make pneumatic equipment?

PFFT, why trust them when 15 yr olds on the intarweb say otherwise?

Id go with the kiddies over a engineer anyday.

[craltal]

I think I'ts unique and good looking
If you look at what went into it, and the Buy it now price.. You can see it's not going to be a rippoff at all. It's very cheap actually. If I didn't own one already, I'd buy it.

I don't see anything wrong with it, odds are it was done correctly. Something tells me that it wasn't some stupid kid who did it. If it was, he'd probably have epoxied his hands together...

I've seen some interesting things done to mags, and this is just another one. Gutting a classic valve isn't as sacreligous as doing so to an RT or x-valve. Classics do have some room for improvement after all.

[PnueMagger]

I don't see anything wrong with it, odds are it was done correctly. Something tells me that it wasn't some stupid kid who did it. If it was, he'd probably have epoxied his hands together...

I'm gonna have to aggree with you there.

Oh, BTW -- it's for sale here too.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195058

[magman007]

Too Bad the best reg to use is.....

AN A.I.R. Valve !



Because it isn't the best way to do things.

For consistency, 2 regulators is best. Those two regulators are the one from your tank, and the AIR valve on the back of the Mag.

Ah, but what do I know? Why trust engineers, people in the pneumatics industry, and the very intelligent designers that make pneumatic equipment?

so, NiCad Must be wrong right?

its something that can be done, it is a mod, it is different, and it allows one person to havea slightly different marker than everyone else. i think id much rather have a faster recharging reg (read aka 2 liter, palmer fatty stab) than the air valve, as they have proven to be better regs than the raptor, or other Air america vert regs.

please, get over your self.

[ThePixelGuru]

Nicad built a nice one.


It'd be fun, I gotta admit. Before, non-Automag owners had no idea what you were shooting, now you can stump even the 'mag guys.

[nicad]

hey! dass my ol trusty gun! :)

It was done to be different, yes. It was not a performance boost. It actually decreased the recharge rate slightly. But the hyperframe could only do 13bps, so it was fine with that.

I figured, if I run a SS A.I.R. reg on the back of the gun AND have a foregrip, thats like adding weight. so removed the AIR reg and replaced the foregrip with an inline reg.. overall size and weight loss.

I do not think you could ever replace the AIR reg with an inline reg and see a recharge rate increase. The AIR is the closets configuration to the recharge path, it will react the fastest. remember, any non-RT valve will be passing the regulated air through the on/off pin before it gets to the dump chamber- that is where the bottleneck is.

out!

[sniper1rfa]

Looks like the back of the micro was cut off with a hacksaw, though. Of course, bad pics, so....



It looks like my micro, only mine's body is cut up more than that, and less than NiCad's.

[slade]

Because it isn't the best way to do things.

For consistency, 2 regulators is best. Those two regulators are the one from your tank, and the AIR valve on the back of the Mag.

Ah, but what do I know? Why trust engineers, people in the pneumatics industry, and the very intelligent designers that make pneumatic equipment?

umm, what? you can stop talking now.

it can be a mistake to discredit professionals and those who work in the industry, but at the same time it can be a mistake to trust everything completely and say its the right way because thats how its done.

double regulating isnt necessarily the "best way to do things". a setup will run fine on ANY marker if you have one adjustable reg on the tank, set at whatever pressure you need, and no other reg (except for maybe an LPR if the marker requires one). there wouldnt be any noticeable difference in consistency, the only issue would be that the output pressure of the reg could change as the upstream pressure does, which would be minimized by two regs... but that shouldnt happen too much with a good reg. the main reason markers have multiple regs is because the screw in system is an industry standard, and its much easier to just have a tank with a set output pressure. some markers like blowbacks or mags take that pressure as an input, while other markers require an inline reg to lower the pressure and adjust the velocity. it tends to be a bit easier than making an easily adjustable and mountable tank with a regulator good for 0-1000 psi output, or different tanks/tank regs for each marker.