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  • buzzboy
    Emo grass cuts inself
    • Mar 2005
    • 1322

    #16
    Doc, what size valve is that, 1.5" or 2"? How big of a barrel do you use?

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    • Ken Majors
      RLTW
      • Nov 2003
      • 164

      #17
      I remember some time ago....maybe around 2001?, at Tippmann World Challenge 1 (might have been TWC2), they were launching squadbusters into the village area of the Hell Survivors. They were using the mortar/artillery type launcher. Not sure who made that thing, might have been Tippmann Ordnance. They launched about 10 or so of those things and had warned everyone out there that they were doing it. Apparently one of these grenades hit a referee in the back of the head, knocking him senseless, and knocking his mask off.
      That was the last time they allowed the use of the launcher at TWC. I was at the game but
      I didn't personally witness the hit, so it is hearsay. I do know that they only use that launcher now to launch T-shirts into the crowd at the closing ceremony.

      Just a note to say that if you are going to use one of these. Be careful.

      RLTW
      https://cbrangers.homeip.net

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      • p8ntball72
        www.southwestvoodoo.com
        • Nov 2002
        • 467

        #18
        First, Be sure that your Cannon can Pass the requirements of the Scenario producer and Meet the insurance guidelines of the field.

        *Most Rules say the expansion/air chamber must be made of metal and can not exceed 80 psi when charged.

        *Most rules say cannons must chrono under 230 fps.

        *Most rules say when launching cannon rounds {ie. lose paintballs} you must launch at at 45* angle.

        In my on field experience, when you meet all the guidelines the cannon/mortar becomes an ineffective weapon.
        Originally posted by AGD
        "No we don't install these things, there are no instructions and the box really sucks."

        www.southwestvoodoo.com

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        • doc_Zox
          Team Dead by Dawn
          • Jun 2003
          • 723

          #19
          thats a $15, 1 inch rain bird 100-DV

          40 gallon per minute

          a 2 incher is a 75 dollar valve

          200 gallon per minute flow!

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          • MoeMag
            Still here.
            • Dec 2005
            • 1821

            #20
            Originally posted by doc_Zox
            thats a $15, 1 inch rain bird 100-DV

            40 gallon per minute

            a 2 incher is a 75 dollar valve

            200 gallon per minute flow!
            Wow, thanks for the link glad to know there are 2 inchers.
            Now this is what I'm talking about...http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/detail.aspx?ID=148
            Last edited by MoeMag; 04-17-2006, 12:50 PM.

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            • p8ntball72
              www.southwestvoodoo.com
              • Nov 2002
              • 467

              #21
              10,000 in prizes and Holding the Event at the end of the month?

              Is this an Event in AZ.?

              If it is, 2 weeks isn't much notice for some of the Larger Scenario teams in the state.

              *Edit

              **Found it....... APD SHELL SHOCK**

              Good luck with your project.
              Originally posted by AGD
              "No we don't install these things, there are no instructions and the box really sucks."

              www.southwestvoodoo.com

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              • doc_Zox
                Team Dead by Dawn
                • Jun 2003
                • 723

                #22
                you might also want to look at a supah valve

                a piston opens a huge port ASAP

                theses are a solid set of plans:


                venting the backside of a diaphragm with a blowgun works quite well

                check out this system:

                http://www.network54.com/Forum/9013/...ir+Cannon+pics...

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                • MoeMag
                  Still here.
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1821

                  #23
                  Originally posted by doc_Zox
                  you might also want to look at a supah valve

                  a piston opens a huge port ASAP

                  theses are a solid set of plans:


                  venting the backside of a diaphragm with a blowgun works quite well

                  check out this system:

                  http://www.network54.com/Forum/9013/...ir+Cannon+pics...
                  that supah valve is awsome. How the hell does that work!?
                  I really think we are going with a spring loaded 2in ball valve. We have seen 4 inchers but they are really hard to pull.



                  YUP. that is about what it looks like... only they are about 300 rounds short of what we are planning. and my bolt is better

                  I'm off to se if it will be a reality... back in a few hours.
                  Last edited by MoeMag; 04-17-2006, 01:24 PM.

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                  • doc_Zox
                    Team Dead by Dawn
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 723

                    #24
                    1st Merc has a nice piece of field arty:




                    it's a sort of bergles cannon design with the pressure vessel sleeving the barrel


                    more sur***e:


                    http://bradschmid.tripod.com/id9.html

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                    • doc_Zox
                      Team Dead by Dawn
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 723

                      #25
                      piston valve theory:
                      http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=299

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                      • MoeMag
                        Still here.
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1821

                        #26
                        Originally posted by doc_Zox
                        Last edited by MoeMag; 04-17-2006, 02:43 PM.

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                        • buzzboy
                          Emo grass cuts inself
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1322

                          #27
                          Why are you going for such a large valve? Unless you are going to have a giant toted behind a vehicle beast then a 3/4" or 1" valve would be plenty sufficient.

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                          • doc_Zox
                            Team Dead by Dawn
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 723

                            #28
                            the bigger the valve, the larger the port
                            a larger port flows more volume in a shorter time

                            big butterfly or ball valves will work, but they need to be opened in a consistent, fast manner

                            on Mythbusters they constructed an air cannon that used a 12 inch butterfly.
                            to open it in a repeatable fashion, they but a 4 foot cheater on the handle and hung a few bench weights on the end.

                            it dropped open

                            i have run several ball valve LAWs and they are prone to leak down
                            and will bloop a nerf out if they are not snapped open

                            snapping open the ball valve can pull you off of target

                            i have seen spring or bungie assisted ball valve designs

                            Diaphragms and pistons snap open when the trigger side is vented
                            and you can also run the trigger valve in a remote location in a grip frame

                            i did a leak down test on my new rig
                            it held 70 PSI for 4 days

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                            • MoeMag
                              Still here.
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1821

                              #29

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                              • ttink
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 317

                                #30
                                I say make a double barrel cannon that you can load one barrel and fire the other at the same time so you can crank out rounds much faster Im sure my idea is somehow totally flawed, but it sounds cool.

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