What makes guns like the DM6 and Angels better then lower end electros?

[Corbet]

not really a wast of money.......but i have seen guys with the tippmans and spyder walk all over the guys with the higher end markers.......you cant rate some one by there marker.....

I'm gonna edit that. Not really what I meant.

But I'll agree with you. You can't look at a person's marker, but the fact is, ALOT of people do. If your picking teams your gonna pick the people decked out in a expensive mask, jersey, pants, with a high end marker, instead of the guy with the Model 98/Spyder. I feel like that applies more to people with the $1000+ setups.

[fire1811]

Nailed every single one of them. You can't go out an play professionaly paintball with a low end electro that has no reliability (ICD minus Freestyle which is not low end). That's the way the pros work so everyone in paintball must do it.

Hmm that's weird I play with my ION every weekend and compete in tournaments with it quite often and don't seem to have a problem.



No paintball gun is or ever was worth a $1000. Antiques not included

[stop whining buy a mag]

When you start playing paintball, you move your way up through the levels of markers. After playing with high end guns, you wouldn't want to shoot anything on the real low end side. IMO, cheap electros do not feel right when shooting. They feel cheap and do not shoot smooth. They can be slow and made poorly. All the ICD guns I have shot minus the Freestyle are just pieces. I'd still like to shoot the Promaster but I've heard mixed reviews about it.

If someone handed me a high end gun to shoot and a low end gun to shoot while I was blindfolded, I could easily tell the difference. It's like people saying some pizza is better than other pizza. They are made with the same ingredients but the better pizza was probably given more attention to detail instead of just being mass produced.

[PnueMagger]

Higher end guns are better than mid level and low level electros. That's just a fact. But what some fail to realize is this. As markers get more and more high end, the marginal gains per dollars spent drastically decreases. The relationship of dollars spent to performance is not by any means linearly proportional

Example: Dragun LCD $100
Spyder E marker $150
Ion w/ Ups $300
E2 Cocker $400-500
Shocker $600
DM6/Angels/Egos $1000+

You'll notice that toward the beginning of the list...a little price increase dramatically ups performance
In the middle there is noticeble difference in performance denoted by a nontrivial price difference
Towards the end of the list there is multi hundred dollar price gaps with negligably better markers than the previous marker

Bottom line: Higher end guns are better. And to some people, the slight edge is woth the eaxrta $600

[BD_Paintball]

Bottom line: Higher end guns are better. And to some people, the slight edge is woth the eaxrta $600

every advantage helps and some ppl are willing to spend extra money for that advantage which i dont blame them if they have the money

[BigEvil]

Its pointless. People buying different stuff because A) they can afford it, B) they like it, C) bragging rights.

Same we can talk why people driving BMW or Hundai. Its not all about to deliver paintball from point A to point B. Its about delivering it with pleasure.

Absolutely true.

But go take the Pesi challenge with a Spyder Electra and a DM6 and tell me what one is high end? There is a difference. To some people, it is irrelevent, as long as the gun works reliably. Which is not a bad philisophy.

[peewee]

[QUOTE=stop whining buy a mag] I'd still like to shoot the Promaster but I've heard mixed reviews about it.

I'm using a lasoya promaster & it has been flawless. They finally got it right.

[jenarelJAM]

Kick, Gas Efficiency, Weight, Reliable speed, higher grade parts ever seen the noid on a an Ion?, Consistency, Tournament Functions, and Adjustibility.

Kick- Try a spyder, then try anything over $250. Plus, low end guns just sound loud/bad

Gas efficiency- Depends on the marker. My emag gets the same efficiency as a spyder, but my viking gets half again as much.

Weight- eh, I don't care so much

Reliable speed- or just speed. I don't care if my marker can cycle 30+ bps, but I'd like to know it can shoot faster than 20. The Ion is capped at 17(stock board) and even though this is higher than 15 bps ramp cap, I think it's capped too slow.

Higher grade parts- Definately a big one. The reason you see people still playing with 15 year old mags is because they work forever. Alot of higher end guns are used for a year, sold, used by their next owner for awhile, sold again, and fade into oblivion. How many people do you see running around with the old dye matrices (03) now that the newer DM4/5/6 are out? the DM(3)'s are perfectly good markers, but they just don't stand the test of time. You look at the Viking and Excal however, and even though they are 04 and earlier models, they are still regarded as cutting edge markers.

Consistency- Well, this affects one of the three dimensions of accuracy. The up-down one. So it's fairly important. Consistency is affected more by co2 vs hpa and good paint than by gun quality. Anything over $250 should have decent consistency.(with hpa and good paint)

Tournament functions- Big one. Many people who wants to play in a tournament(we're talking just a general tourney here) will want to have 15 bps ramping, dwell/debounce settings, eyes. Maybe some of the other misc. features of a nice board too.

Adjustability- With most higher end markers, well, first you don't need to replace anything, they come pretty good stock, but also, you can adjust them exactly how you like them. Like... adjusting the trigger so it's light, activates when you want it to, returns to where you want it to... etc.


Also... for $500, check the used markers out. $500 will get you last year's $900 marker.

[Rudz]

Gas efficiency- Depends on the marker. My emag gets the same efficiency as a spyder, but my viking gets half again as much.

so your emag is more efficient than your viking..hmm so the emag gets more than a case off a 68 now?? man no one even told me..im gonna ask my emag..