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  • ABTOCMEPTb

    #1

    To call or leave it to refs?

    Sometime when I play and feel that I got hit I call myself out just to find out that ball actualy bounced without breaking. Its pretty amazing sometime that impact can be so painfull but paintball actually didnt break.

    I read alot on forums that people do use lucky bounces and dont call them selfs out so what is the right thing to do? Should I continue being honest or should I let reffery to do their job and wait till they tell me that I was hit?
  • marpat
    Registered User
    • Jan 2006
    • 218

    #2
    Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb
    Sometime when I play and feel that I got hit I call myself out just to find out that ball actualy bounced without breaking. Its pretty amazing sometime that impact can be so painfull but paintball actually didnt break.

    I read alot on forums that people do use lucky bounces and dont call them selfs out so what is the right thing to do? Should I continue being honest or should I let reffery to do their job and wait till they tell me that I was hit?

    I thought in the general understanding of paintball it requires a paintball to break on you or a part of your equipment to be considered called out.

    I myself go by the above rule. if you have lucky bounces then so be it. if i'm the one shooting you and you have bounces then i'll just shoot you till one breaks

    my 2 cents.

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #3
      PSP/NPPL rules clearly state you are responsible for any hit except for hits to the back of your pack (behind your hips) or to the outside of your hopper (refs discretion). If you are playing with a break to any other area the refs are fully justified to call you for a penalty.

      In rec ball if I can see it I check, if I can't see it and think it might have bounced I call, if I think it broke I call myself.
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • shartley
        paintball player
        • Mar 2001
        • 9169

        #4
        If you think you are out, call yourself out. If you are not sure, call a ref to verify. It seems pretty simple to me.

        If you think you are out and call yourself out, you are out, even if you find out later that the ball did not break. It is the same thing as surrendering in that aspect.

        So I guess it is simply a call you have to make at the time.

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        • Sniper1
          One shot one kill.
          • May 2005
          • 90

          #5
          I cherished that trust as it can only help.

          I have my fair share of horror stories with every thing there the good the bad and the ugly. But if you follow a good rule of conduct even if you walk off even if you are not out but up for dispute you gain the respect of players and the staff.

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          • evildead420
            Registered User
            • Jan 2004
            • 846

            #6
            i usually ask a teammate close by and ask if i got hit. i usually dont have time to check myself when i still got paint flinging towards me. so its up to them to lmk. but if i do get hit, ill call it anyway, ref or just if i know i think that makes sence


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            • ThePixelGuru
              Guru of Pixels
              • May 2005
              • 1461

              #7
              If I feel a hit, I look to see if it broke, and if it did I call myself out. If it's a bounce, I keep playing. Eliminations come from _marking_ your opponents. If it hits somewhere I can't see, what I do depends on where I'm playing. If it's somewhere people know me as an honest player or trust people to be honest, I swipe my hand across it, look for paint and shell and call myself out if I see it. If it's somewhere where people don't know I'm not a cheater, I'll call a paint check. Don't want to look like I'm wiping when I'm just checking to see if I'm hit.

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              • magsRus
                Lost Boys
                • Jul 2001
                • 1706

                #8
                Here is my view..

                When I'm playing at a tournment those Ref's are either A. Getting paid to be there B. Getting free paint to be there or C. volunteering for some reason. If I get hit and I feel it I will quickly and I mean quickly scan the part of my body that I got hit in. If I get hit in the back I keep playing. I cant see my back, but the ref can so he can call me out. I have never and will never call for a paint check. I think arguing with a ref is pretty stupid because in most cases they just pull another one of your players till you go to your dead box and shut up. So for those haters out there that may say "i play on" i'm not playing on, i'm just not going to take the 20 seconds to look all over my body for a hit that I really dont want to see, I will check, but im talking about a second or two glance. let the ref do his job, i already did my part by glancing around my body.
                "You dont need to be so shallow, turn your head prepare to follow"-CKY

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                • 68magOwner
                  Registered User
                  • May 2003
                  • 3475

                  #9
                  dont necessarily call yourself out as soon as you feel a hit, but, dont sit there and keep playing till a ref pulls you, if you cant tell if a ball broke or not, check it, just touch where you were hit, then look at your fingers for paint, its not too tricky.

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Originally posted by magsRus
                    Here is my view..

                    When I'm playing at a tournment those Ref's are either A. Getting paid to be there B. Getting free paint to be there or C. volunteering for some reason. If I get hit and I feel it I will quickly and I mean quickly scan the part of my body that I got hit in. If I get hit in the back I keep playing. I cant see my back, but the ref can so he can call me out. I have never and will never call for a paint check. I think arguing with a ref is pretty stupid because in most cases they just pull another one of your players till you go to your dead box and shut up. So for those haters out there that may say "i play on" i'm not playing on, i'm just not going to take the 20 seconds to look all over my body for a hit that I really dont want to see, I will check, but im talking about a second or two glance. let the ref do his job, i already did my part by glancing around my body.
                    So you have justified cheating? The rules (PSP/ NPPL) are very clear that it is not the refs job to call you out on a hit but to penalize you if you do not call yourself out. I do it to, I call it what it is, its cheating. No grey area, the rules are black and white. Yes, you are playing on, its what the rules say.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • Cow hunter
                      300fps=204.54mph
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1521

                      #11
                      if its an obvious break, i call myself out, or ill touch the are with my fingers to see i im out. if im not sure (the hit is in an area i cant touch easily i.e. my back), ill call the ref over for a paint check while i continue to play. as per the rules you are a neutral player if the ref is withing touching distance of you

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cow hunter
                        if its an obvious break, i call myself out, or ill touch the are with my fingers to see i im out. if im not sure (the hit is in an area i cant touch easily i.e. my back), ill call the ref over for a paint check while i continue to play. as per the rules you are a neutral player if the ref is withing touching distance of you

                        Define neutral player. And not having my copy of the rules right in front of me... where is that? I've stood at the field before and quoted PSP rules that don't exist to other pretty veteran tournament players - be amazed how many have seemingly never actually read the rules.
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                        • Sniper1
                          One shot one kill.
                          • May 2005
                          • 90

                          #13

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                          • BigEvil
                            www.BigEvilOnline.com

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 9333

                            #14
                            If your not sure if a ball broke, call a paintcheck on yourself.

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                            • PnueMagger

                              #15
                              you know what I hate, When you're shoting and your gun gets hit, and you don't realize it. Happened to me once. I must've unloaded another 100 shots before I went to reload and saw my gun got lit up like a christmas tree. I then walked off the field.

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