Tank explodes in Madrid

[Beemer]

Anybody have any more info on this.

Gives new meaning to Flash fill. Need the heat for this to happen dont ya?

They decided.

Madrid Cylinder Incident
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A statement form Mr Trevor Kent form H-Pac concerning an incident at the the Millennium event in Madrid, today the 2nd June 2006.

At approximately 3pm there was an incident where a cylinder being filled exploded. After a thorough investigation and examination of the cylinder / regulator and also evidence found on the fill station, it was decided that a player had sprayed a general purpose lubricant (3 in 1 oil, found close by) into the fill nipple and then commenced to fill the cylinder.
This obviously ignited inside the cylinder under pressure which caused the reg to melt and the cylinder to fly into the staging area causing some injuries believed to be minor.

The reason for this accident was because the player used an incorrect method for repairing a fault with the fill nipple/ reg and thus endangered their own and other people's safety.
H-Pac would like to make it absolutely clear that the entire fault for this incident lay with the improper filling and maintenance of this cylinder.
The player in question has not come forward and remains anonymous for reasons which seem obvious.

Compressed air is dangerous if misused and if you have any problems, you should immediately consult the manufacturer.
Never attempt to repair these cylinder reg units by yourself, you should always consult the correct technicians or manufactures.

Trevor Kent
H-Pac

http://www.p8ntballer-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=64031

[ttink]

Jeez man, im glad no one was hurt too badly. Ill make a note to never oil my nipples as well

[p8ntball72]

I know that many players think that filling an Air system in "no big deal"
but according to the NSERA and APL {paintball specific Insurance} Only trained and certified staff are to perform air fills.

Every weekend fields Violate the requirements set forth to protect us as players.
It does not matter if the Player was at fault in this accident, The promoter and Staff are at fault for allowing a noncertified person to preform the fill.

[paintman1234]

wow! seems like the person filling it would have been hurt a little more then "minor injuries" but thank goodness he or she wasnt

its bound to happen once and awhile

[behemoth]

why the hell would you put 3in1 into your fill nipple?

[RRfireblade]

Putting oil in a HP cyclinder, paintball or otherwise has always been a no no.

[Gunga]

why the hell would you put 3in1 into your fill nipple?

Cause you're stupid. I bet he'll never do that again.

[evildead420]

i had some experence with foreign objects in my tank

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135124

i still not completely sure if it was water or oil but it did feel oily around the reg and threading area. no problem now cause that tank is gone.

[neppo1345]

Oil in a high pressure environment becomes more flammable than gasoline.

It's the basic concept behind a deesil engine.

Oil + High Pressure = Combustion.

[behemoth]

Cause you're stupid. I bet he'll never do that again.

I really hope you meant "you're" in answer of "Why would you do that..."

[jenarelJAM]

I hate the people who fill tanks at fields. They basicly slap your tank on the adaptor, turn the bleed off, open the gate completely, filling you tank in less than 5 seconds, then close it, bleed it, and give it back to you. Not only is this stupid and dangerous, My tank pressure goes from 3000 psi to 2400 psi in 2 minutes, and then I have to go back and get it filled AGAIN.

Putting oil in his tank was really not a good idea... This was at a Millenium tourney right? Aren't these people knowledgable enough not to put oil in their tanks???

[Ken Majors]

I attended a couple of schools on SCBA breathing cylinders through MSA and Scott.

Both of the manufacturers clearly state that filling a high pressure cylinder fast leads to premature failure of the inner liner, and excess wear and tear on the tank.
We were trained to fill tanks no faster than 500psi per minute, and slower than that if possible. Flash filling is never advised and the reason for that is demonstrated by what happened above.

Funny thing about that is that both Scott and MSA have come out with quick-fill adaptors to be used for emergency air fills. Which will without a doubt lead to people flash filling and breaking things.

But everyone knows if you flash fill, your psi drops to about 2/3 of what you had initially.
Not a big deal when you are filling between games and shoot it quickly before it has a chance to cool. Rookies on the fire department learn quickly if they fill the SCBA tanks too quickly that after about an hour they will be back out there filling them again.

Oil and HPA increased the kablooey factor about 10 times.
High pressure anything is dangerous. I once saw a burst high pressure air line cut through a firefighters glove and laid his hand open to the bone.
However: High pressure air is safe if used properly.

[ahellers]

wait. the field owner where i bought my tank told me you should put some lube in the tank every so often... so is this a no no?
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[magman007]

big no no... tell him to stop advising that. theres an article on warpig as well.

[Jonno06]

i dont see how it could IGNITE from air though?



also, the fill station as the local field broke today, and when the pressure made the hose jump a little bit, it ripped my friends fill nipple in half. it was definitly some scary ****