Ramping In Recball?!?!?!

[Chrishew09]

I have been playing woodsball for about 7 or 8 years now, and I have never played at a air ball field, until this past saturday. When I showed up I noticed that everyone had a DM or Ego (flavor of the month) marker, and me the only Emag on the field that day. So I played the first game in Semi cap'd at 12 pbs, I shortly relized I needed to shoot faster after streams of paint were being thrown at me. I asked the ref "do you guys allow ramping on normal rec. game like today?", he looked at me like I was crazy and said "of course". I then asked him "do you really think it is fair to have a 12 year old kid with a 98custom rental against a DM with ramping?", his responce "well we try to split up the teams to keep it fair".

So tell me what you think guys, should fields allow ramping on normal rec. game with little kids or am just not with the times?

I tried to play the day in normal semi, but by the end of the day the last few games I turned on my ramping (Xmod) just so I could compete, and not get bunkered I didnt want to do it but I really had no choice, and by then there were no rental guys left on the field.

P.S. Xmod ROCKS!!

[warbeak2099]

My field allows it and I'm fine with it. BUT... my field does a great job of splitting the rental/noobs and the more experienced players up. They have organized groups and make sure inexperienced kids with rentals and whatnot do not walk out into an intermediate game. So, if handled properly and responsibly, it is certainly acceptible. It sounds like your field tries to do the same thing.

[BigEvil]

Yeah, you really have to split the new guys and experienced players up. Even if there is an even mix, it still doesnt work out too well most of the times.

I think most airball games have ramping, mainly because all of the guns used for it have those modes.

[CKY_Alliance]

Well fields allow it usually as long as its capped..but to the field, ramping= more paint shot= more money, i personally have no problem playing people that ramp, i generally dont because the series i play is uncapped semi and i can pull as fast and sometimes faster then they can ramp..(when capped at 15like most legal ramp modes) they just do it with a little less effort...i dont agree with letting a 12 year old that cant controll his gun ramp though or a person of any age, when playing rec ball there is no need for bonus balling and when that start to happen it gets a little riddiculous....ye im rambling slightly

[Hexis]

As long as it's consistantly either allowed or not allowed (and enforced) I'm all good. I do think it's overkill for rec. I also understand playing recball as you would play any other game. After all practice is practice.

[Chrishew09]

This field really didnt split the teams even, I walked on to a field to get insurted and they put me on the team with all experianced players with ramping against a bunch of young kids with tippmans and spyder.

I think it might discurage young player from the sport when they are always getting bunkered by ropes of paint.

IMO, ramping should only be allowed in tornament level play not rec. ball, on the other hand if I owned a field I would want everyone fireing as fast as possible to make the most amount of money. I guess thats why paintball sponsors push the rule makers to change the rules to include ramping, like they did.

I did see alot of 11 - 15 year old kids with DM's and Proto's ramping and talking all this crap to one another about how good they are, and telling ME that they were going to "wreck" me. I hate to see this in the sport, kids like that give the sport a bad name, they are a product of mainstream sponsorship and hype.

My moto is the "marker does not make the player", and I've told that to many young kids that get intimidated by my markers. But with the way the play is going it seems to me that the marker DOES make the player.

It's a sham...

[stop whining buy a mag]

If you couldn't compete without ramping you need to find a new sport.

I find I shoot only 3 bags of paint in a day of play while ramping but in semi I'll shoot at least 4 bags. Watch an NPPL game and then watch a PSP game. You'll see almost the same amount of paint in the air. The only difference is it's easier to keep 15 BPS going when you only need to keep tapping your trigger a couple times a second.

[magman007]

at your level, the marker does make the player. If you play competitively, you will see that it does not, just certain markers offer other advantages over the other. It sounds like the people you playwith have no tallent, then again, if you had to turn on ramping as well, it sounds like you lack in the tallent dept too.


Btw, call them flavor of the month guns all you want, but theres a reason people shoot dm's

[68magOwner]

yes, ramping is used in recball/woodsball/any ball around here. Even the rental markers ramp here. Kinda crazy, but, its still not too tricky to hold your own using semi (or a pump for that matter) because, just because the kiddies guns are going zoom zoom dosent mean they can hit anything.

[Jonno06]

we allow it at my field. capped at 15bps of course.

the rental kids usually play the NPPL center court field that we have, while the more experienced players/teams, play the chicago style X-ball field.

[Chrishew09]

I was doing okay in semi only, given the fact that I never played air ball before, I just wanted to try ramping, it does make the game more intense.

I call them "flavor of the month" b/c I remember when timmy's and angels were all you saw at tournaments, now its DM's and Ego's, dont get me wrong they are nice markers, I just dont prefer them over my Emag.

In retrospect I am more or less not accustomed to playing air ball as apposed to woodsball, and if I where to always have played air ball I would have a much different perspective on the issue.

[Chrishew09]

at your level, the marker does make the player. If you play competitively, you will see that it does not, just certain markers offer other advantages over the other. It sounds like the people you playwith have no tallent, then again, if you had to turn on ramping as well, it sounds like you lack in the tallent dept too.


Btw, call them flavor of the month guns all you want, but theres a reason people shoot dm's

This is AO not PBnation no need to say that type of stuff.

[p8ntball72]

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[PumpPlayer]

Ramping for walk-on play is really just dumb.


The problem is that kids now have the ability to go out and buy 18 BPS for around $200. They want to use this ability.
I know that the insurance policies of most fields do NOT cover the use of anything except straight semi-. Fields are inclined to break these regulations because they believe it will help them sell more paint. (Which is false anyhow. You sell more paint simply by keeping players playing. Downtime and mixing experienced players with new ones is what prevents people from shooting as much.)

Fields also think that unless they allow ramping, the people who want to use ramping will simply go somewhere else. If you run a quality field in the first place, you really don't need to worry about losing your business.


If the pros want to ramp, fine. They can keep it.
Myself and the people I play with just don't want to have to deal with ramping when we want to have fun. It causes too many problems because no matter what everyone tells you, there's going to be a few people there that are simply too immature to handle the responsibility.

[jsdatjsd]

Man...back in the day, when I played origianlly, everything was mechanical, except the shocker, which was new and really expensive. (I may not be remembering correctly).

Ramping? Isn't that just another way of saying "burst fire"?

I always fouind that the 2-3 bps I could get thru regular semi, with a single trigger, still allowed me to throe enough paint to keep the opponents ducking.

BUt then, I always enjoyed woodsball and mini-scenario games more than the net-fields that are predominant today.

I was a walk on back then and always will be. SO the whole ramping thing seems a bit silly. If they want to spray 15 shots at me, all to have them break on the bushes and trees before I take two or three aimed shots that make it threough the bushes, great.

JD