do mag owners really need backup markers? I know allot of people say they use their mags as backups, but if your main marker is a mag do you really need a backup. what do you guys think.
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Anyone who is pushing any marker to the edge of its limits does. The worst marker for reliability I ever had was actually my E-mag. Mind you I had the level ten tuned very close, the solenoid set very close, the trigger tuned impecabbly, add to this a tank specifically tinkered with to get less RT rise and still allow a great rate of fire and there was a problem waiting to happen every day. Shooting, to this day, it was the fastest semi marker I have ever shot, but it was also one of very few markers that I have also tossed in disgust. Now my mech mag that I have set to just work is almost foolproof."Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr SuessComment
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My E-mag had basically and RT Pro (it was before RT Pros) as a backup and then a minimag as a secondary backup. My Shocker had an RT Pro as a backup and then after a month a set of three Shockers as interchangeable primary / backups with a phantom if things went really bad. My Ion had a minimag as backup (I was cheap for the month I owned that combo) My Devilmag had a PM5 as a backup and then my PM5 had an Ion as backup. My Minion has my "dream" mag as a backup (Intelliframe, stainless centerfeed no rise body, boomstick, stainless E-mag valve with LX).Originally posted by jsdatjsdOk Lohmman, so when I finally get my mag, should I purchase a $35 PMI from walmart as a backup?
I think I will, just for fun. I bet I will never use it."Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr SuessComment
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It is always nice to have a back up. Do some people go a little over board with backups? Of course, but dont let my girlfriend know!
Me I have a main mech marker and a main electronic marker with backups for each. My main mech is my warped minimag with zgrip, its backup is a non ULE emag with no electronics and a classic valve. My main electronic marker (almost finished) is my tboarded emag, its soon to be backup (it should be on its way this weekend) will be a jax warriors e1ed cocker, and as a second backup I have my tboarded with ultrachip dragun T1. Its a little over kill, but I hate not having a working gun at the field.
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I thikn I may just get one of those $100 mask/gun/tank kits from walmart for two reasons:
1) If my marker gets screwed, I can still play. (I have no delusions about my skill, marker quality probly won't affect my game much, im too good)
2) I can invite my brother to play, hes got no $ so can't afford one of his own right now. (he just had his first kid and graduated from art school.)
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good lord can anybody say gun whores.
and i'm trying to figure out if i want to get a mec mag to back my e-mag. for christ sake why do you need secondary backups. other than getting guns to tinker with and then sell i just can't see owning more than 2 or 3. or atmost one of each type of gun style but only if you have the money and time to tinker with them. by that i mean, 1 stacked tube, 1 strait blowback, 1 cocker, 1 pnumatic e-gun, ect. but still thats only if you are retired or own the field. but i can't complain i have bought every type of loader i could find so i think we might all have a little whore in us.
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I don't even have a primary gun right now. But that is only 70 pounds away.
ANd for anyone that cares, my wife is on a similar program (but she doesn't need to lose as much as I do). Apparently, she is going to reward herself wit ha trip to Europe, to visit her brother.
My $500 budget just increased to $1,400.00
And, here is the "backup gun" I am going to get:
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If you have an E/Xmag and a few orings in the parts kit there is no back-up needed. If you have a few orings for any other mech mags and you have a general understanding of them there is no need for a back-up. Aftermarket electro like a devilmag or maybe pheumatic frame modded mags one might have a back-up handy. If they fail they may take more time to trouble shoot or you might not have the part handy.Comment
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i'v got my rt pro tuned perfectly, and never have a problem with it. like once in a case of paint will i break a ball, but thats just a barrel break in the last inch of the barrel.
i dont have a back up, but i do have two main guns. my mag and my phantom. neither of which ever break, because they are so reliable, and because i take very good care of my stuff.upgrade fund: $145

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I needed a backup for my 'Mag two or three times. I always oiledit and took good care of it. It was 3 or so years old, so the o-rings may have merely been worn out by then. Ehh, I wasn't happy with it so I sold it and bought a Viking.Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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I used to not believe in not having backups(just lots of primaries
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then, i ended up with my brothers piranha and my cousins A-5.
Now i have a primary Electro and a primary pump, I also have to back up mech guns and ocassionally a backup up.....but the mechs are rarely brought to the field.
Having extra guns also makes it possible to bring friends into the sport easier(although i need some more masks).Comment
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I actually have just gotten used to having so many guns. Since I started tinkering with my dragun-mags and trying diffrent things on them I had quiet a few problems and was forced to have a back up or 2. I take great care of all my guns, I give them all a bath after each game and oil them the night before I go play. However I still have days where everything goes wrong and everygun I touch breaks. That happend to me 2 months ago, I had nothing but problems from my dragun-mag, the level 10 was acting up so I went back to a level 7 bolt, then I started out shooting my evolution and kept getting paint chips stuck between the bolt and the body. I didnt have an extra mag trigger frame at the time (zgrip was at lukes shop), so I was going to setup my electronic spyder. Well come to find out I left the bottomline screws for it at home. So I was forced to choose between my PT Extreme or my Splatmaster. I ended up playing with the splatmaster all day becuse I couldnt get the PT to shoot over 240 that day for some reason. A friend loaned me his freestyle that day also and it ended up breaking while I was chroning it (before I even touched it with a tool it stoped shooting). The paintball gods was not smiling on me that day....Originally posted by quasimortegood lord can anybody say gun whores.
and i'm trying to figure out if i want to get a mec mag to back my e-mag. for christ sake why do you need secondary backups. other than getting guns to tinker with and then sell i just can't see owning more than 2 or 3. or atmost one of each type of gun style but only if you have the money and time to tinker with them. by that i mean, 1 stacked tube, 1 strait blowback, 1 cocker, 1 pnumatic e-gun, ect. but still thats only if you are retired or own the field. but i can't complain i have bought every type of loader i could find so i think we might all have a little whore in us.
Needless to say, all my markers now have drops/asa's on them and are ready to go.
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meh, i dont so much have "backups" as much as i do have other markers i have around for fun.
My prototype ripper 1 timmy, has never so mouch as broken a ball, much less broken down on me, thing works, all the time, and always shoots amazing.
But, that dosent mean i dont have 2 shockers, another timmy, a viking, and a quest laying around to use whenever i feel like it.
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