Banned from PBN... :\

[BD_Paintball]

you should of just put the stars. everyone knows waht board it is if they see *. i guess you will have to get a new name

[Chronobreak]

as others have said it is a busines(somewhat)

problems with virtue can mean problems for them that they do not want to be associated with nor held responsible for helping to facilitate a bad transaction.

as for 68caliber, i believe it is becase it is technicaly a competing site

BUT when the news comes from their site, they should be and are entitles to the rights and recognition for the article or information. otherwise it should NOT be posted.

^that is my thoughts on it not pbn's as a whole.

[Lohman446]

Oh RLY?? Troll around any macDev forum or some of the other trademark forums, and you'll see alot of buisiness reps touting their products. Alot of times misleadingly. At least Virtue was straight with everyone and had a product that delivered (or seemed to by all accounts I've heard)

Remember the whole debate on "sweep trajectory" and the claims by one of the reps of how their guns shot furter or something a few months ago. Alien i think it might of been Or how there was that pic of a MacDev rep modelling some PB wear with a Pistol in his pants?

Plenty of reps do stuff far worthy of a ban then virtue did. One of the PBN mods probably just threw a fit and now their being obtuse about it.

Probably not. At least when Jack Rice discusses "sweep" technology or whatever you know its Jack Rice. Ditto Jim Drew. Virtue reps pretended to be other people and starting bashing every thread involving someone elese products. They became disruptive and created "false images" of who they were to try to lure people towards virtue.

[trevorjk]

its pbn, just make a new account

[REDRT]

What is this? Something like in Harry Potter only this time it is the companies name that we shall not speaketh or writeth in this case? Something this stupied shouldn't be sensored IMO.

[FallNAngel]

Or perhaps they just don't want users on their forum being screwed by a company that lies...

[68magOwner]

Or perhaps they just don't want users on their forum being screwed by a company that lies...

because.....advantage PB sells bad products?
.......no, no they dont

[magman007]

They are rip off artists though... you do realize the virtue board is nothing more than a lucky board with their name on it right? and they charge an extra 20 bux for that? the lucky and virtue chip combo is the exact same as buying the virtue board.


Either way, i refuse to do business with em.

[Cow hunter]

because.....advantage PB sells bad products?
.......no, no they dont

no,he did not question the quality of their products, he said that they lie, and people shouldnt have to be screwed over by them

[68magOwner]

no,he did not question the quality of their products, he said that they lie, and people shouldnt have to be screwed over by them

because.....giving people the product they pay for is screwing them over (now, no, i do not agree with adgantage's business practice any more than anyone else here, but, their products are not bad products, even if someone else does make em, if kiddies are stupid enough to pay $20 more for it because it says "virtue" on it, well, here here to the economic system of the USA, i could care less, but, they are not "screwing kids over" they are just making money, if they sold products that didnt work, or they sold things then never shipped them out, now, that would be screwing someone over.

[mag_lover05]

this is why you buy from tadao

[SpitFire1299]

as others have said it is a busines(somewhat)

problems with virtue can mean problems for them that they do not want to be associated with nor held responsible for helping to facilitate a bad transaction.

as for 68caliber, i believe it is becase it is technicaly a competing site

BUT when the news comes from their site, they should be and are entitles to the rights and recognition for the article or information. otherwise it should NOT be posted.

^that is my thoughts on it not pbn's as a whole.

Your a pbn mod.. right? assuming this is Kartakeeper..

Virtue and pbnation arent in competition. I did not put anyone at risk, or insult anyone/anything by avoiding the filter. I noticed that it wasnt just me who was banned for this reason. They should filter smart parts also because of all the "stuff" they have done(not trying to pick a fight on that topic).

The thing is that it was a B/S/T topic. PbN has become a lot like ebay.. and if ebay started shutting down peoples auctions/accounts because they avoided a silly word that had to do with ebay(themselves).. then there would be havoc.

To sum things up.. Im very upset that Ive become banned for something so stupid While my money and my reputaiton is on the line.

[FallNAngel]

because.....giving people the product they pay for is screwing them over (now, no, i do not agree with adgantage's business practice any more than anyone else here, but, their products are not bad products, even if someone else does make em, if kiddies are stupid enough to pay $20 more for it because it says "virtue" on it, well, here here to the economic system of the USA, i could care less, but, they are not "screwing kids over" they are just making money, if they sold products that didnt work, or they sold things then never shipped them out, now, that would be screwing someone over.

Yes, their products work... however, they have lied to their customers. Giving themselves false praise and leaving negative feedback to competitors ultimately hurts the customers from making an unbiased decision. I mean, if you ran a company and I left feedback for you saying your customer service was terrible because you sent me a board that didn't work and refused to replace it, I'd say that's screwing customers over. Truth is, your product might be better than mine, but I'm misleading them to take a crappier board.

Just because someone gets what's advertised doesn't mean they didn't get screwed over.

To sum things up.. Im very upset that Ive become banned for something so stupid While my money and my reputaiton is on the line.

:: shrug :: Then don't break the rules. If you get pulled over for speeding, do you blame the cops because "you weren't putting anyone at risk"? You broke a rule that was in place for a purpose. Why not just read the rules and think twice before breaking them... especially when your money and reputation is on the line?

The thing is that it was a B/S/T topic. PbN has become a lot like ebay.. and if ebay started shutting down peoples auctions/accounts because they avoided a silly word that had to do with ebay(themselves).. then there would be havoc.

So if someone came up with a program that would leave feedback for anyone (good or bad), without an actual transaction taking place, you wouldn't think anything of it if they filtered that from their auctions? Of course you would, and so would they. They'd ban the account, cancel all the auctions involving it and filter it from the site. Does it really *hurt* eBay? In a way yes... it reflects on them. If they allowed it to continue, no one would bother with eBay, feedback would mean nothing.

In the end, you can complain all you like about "why" they filter the word. Whether or not you agree with it is subjective. In the end though, no one forced you to break the rules and use it anyway, you brought it on yourself.

[pennywise]

Putting a filter on the word "virtue" is lame, even for PbN.

Anyone else see any irony in that...?

[FallNAngel]

No, I fail to see the irony.