Lighter Markers...

[Dye Angel Guy]

I understand the reasoning on people wanting lighter markers but is it really that important. I have used heavy markers like the shoebox shockers and emags to lighter angel speeds and timmies but does 3oz really throw your game off that much or is that extra weight wearing people out on the field.

If the wieght is an issue of getting tired out go lift some weights and get over it. For those hours upon hours of scenario games I can see the weight getting to you after that long of time.

If playing with lets say an Angel LCD in speedball makes you play worse compared to an Angel Speed something is wrong with your game. If people think 3oz.(figuratively, I know the difference is like 8oz. or something) makes them slower to the point that it will make you get hit something is wrong there also. Yes, you will be slower according to physics but the odds of it slowing you down enough to get hit instead of not getting hit are very slim.

Sorry everyone I just had to finally say it.


P.S. I am 6'3" and only 158pounds and I only complain about people complaining about how heavy their gun is compared to another.

[Lenny]

Lol. I agree.

[ttink]

I also agree but I think a lot of it is merely bragging rights, or companies just needing to "innovate".

[JRingold]

Well, I agree and disagree with you at the same time. If that makes any sense...

I can definitely tell the difference it takes on my body between using my X-mag and My RT-ULE Pro. When I play all day long with my X-Mag, I feel completely wasted that night and the next day. When I play all day long with my RT-ULE Pro, I don't have the same level of fatigue. Now, I've not actually weighed either setup, so I honestly don't know if there is much of a difference in the weight of the setups or not, it "feels" like the X-Mag setup is a lot heavier than the RT-Pro ULE. I'll take some pictures and put them on the scale and get back to you...

At the same time, while playing, I can say that I get hit a lot less when using the X-mag. That could be due to the RoF differences, or the confidence that I have when using it over the RT-Pro, I don't know...

[GT]

I dont think you have the entire view of the issue. It really has more to due with the balance of the setup than weight of the marker. I think one reason some people are not fans of mags is becuase they are traditionally more back heavy. A shoebox distrbutes the weight evenly.

[Dye Angel Guy]

Ah yes, having your marker setup balanced I think is way more important than how much it weighs but personally I would rather have a back heavy setup for 2 reasons.

1. If I play back I can rest most of the weight on my arm/shoulder.

2. I can move the front of the gun quicker without the back end swinging around on me.

Just my 2 cents, oh wait because of the COIN ACT there will not be pennies anymore so what is going to happen to the statement?

[KKPASA]

mag vs. phantom

I play with a phantom and a mag there is a BIG difference in weight. I notice a difference in my game play towards the end of the night, but after working out for a few months I can say that the weight of the mag doesn't effect me any more.

[SpitFire1299]

Did you make this topic because i made the 8oz lighter DM6 topic?

I think that once you really get into speedball, you begin to want the best.. lightest and smallest with good performance. It just all around will help your game, but at the same time theres people just as good if not better with there big old guns.

[SR_matt]

meh, i see both ways, at scenarios is definatly improtant but liek you said a short say is no biggy

my old cocker compared to teh mag im building is goign to make a differance (old orry mech cocker) i will be able to throw the mag up more easily i think (also the size helps a little)

while 3 oz by itself isnt a lot think if you use a boost pack in your hopper (half or a 1/3 the weight of normal batteries), get a tank that is 3 oz lighter you just saved almost half a pound.

ya you think o half a pound isnt to much but pick up a piece of lead that is half a pound (yes i know every material that is weight to 1/2 a pound will be the same weight, i say lead because it is dense). and you wil realize that 1/2 a lb will matter a decent amount.

i see the stupidity in it but i also see the good points to it.
-matt

[bentothejam1n]

If the wieght is an issue of getting tired out go lift some weights and get over it

people like light weight guns because they can move them faster when snapping or when moving the gun. being strong doesnt nesscesarily make you faster when moving your gun. sorry if nobody can understand what im saying because im running on about 4 hours of sleep

[zaqwert6]

Basically it's this....

Generally speaking all current markers FAR out perform thier user. The only tangible difference beyond that is size and weight.

Both are pretty easy to visually compare unlike most other attributes.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I also agree but I think a lot of it is merely bragging rights, or companies just needing to "innovate".

I agree with your first statement. Alot of it is kids bragging or justifying their purchase because it is lighter. I think most players, including teenagers, know that you will not feel a 3oz. weight difference.

Balance is really key. It can make a bigger difference than just the weight of the marker.

And to the person who said weight is important in a scenario game, you have no idea. 3 days straight using an 04 Viking, 88/4500 and a Halo in the sun....I was able to hold another plyers 06 Cyborg with a 68/4500 and Halo and it felt so much lighter. The difference was just astounding...

[SR_matt]

o i understand that, i used an old mech cocker with a 68/45 for a full scenario and i was sore for the next week or so (i can do it fine now but still that was bad)

my friend shoots a viking and ya that thing is a tank
-matt

[68magOwner]

for years i used unmilled vikings, dm3's, Z gripped old RT mags, and similar heavy setups, and, they never botherd me at all. Latley i have been playing with my shockers quite a bit (just changing things up from the long time timmy use) and, i recently picked up and played with a DM3, and i can honestly say, the weight bothered me. The thing shoots great, but, just wasnt near as comfortable to snap with, or shoot while reloading (holding up with one hand), or even post up for extended time periods.

[Nutsnyomowf]

Disagree.A lighter marker alows the player to run faster, draw quicker,and hold his/her marker in a steady position longer.