Lighter Markers...

[RavishingEddie]

My Emag weighs 2 lbs 14 oz. W/O tank It lost to my friends 06 Ego that weighs 2 lbs 8oz. But I then removed the Emag battery and case and it weighed at 11 oz.

If can find a way to get a lighter battery we will have a new winner.

[jenarelJAM]

Lithium^^^

All you people who complain about your vikings, the things are HOLLOW. I take mine to the field and honestly can't feel it dragging me down at all.
I normally think that the "go to the gym" comment is overused and doesn't always relate, since many paintballers get some serious exercise just playing paintball nonstop, but onedude36, if you can't shoulder your viking, it's not the viking's fault.

I think lightness is indeed the market's next goal. Since the electronics have plateau'd, and paintballs aren't changing any time soon, there's not much left to improve on. I wouldn't mind dropping a couple oz. off my setup, or even up to a couple pounds, but the tradoff is price and quality. When I look for a new gun, the first thing I look for is reliability. Guess what my two guns are, a viking and mag(and broken spyder... hm...). Next I look for is a decent trigger/board, and then price. At the end of my list is cosmetics and weight. I'm not a huge guy, but I could care less how much the thing weighs if it has everything else I want. If I can shoot it comfortably, I'm all set. If you can't shoot it comfortably, well, either go to the gym or settle for something else.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

All you people who complain about your vikings, the things are HOLLOW. I take mine to the field and honestly can't feel it dragging me down at all.
I normally think that the "go to the gym" comment is overused and doesn't always relate, since many paintballers get some serious exercise just playing paintball nonstop, but onedude36, if you can't shoulder your viking, it's not the viking's fault.

I do agree with you. However, I only complained when I was dealing with a 3 day scenario game and to be honest, it was not that bad. I had started lifting weights a few months back just so my arms wouldn't die when I played in the scenario. It's not like I'm weak, I just needed the endurance.

However, I find it odd that you look for a decent trigger/board combo as your second requirement for a new marker. I guess that just falls under personal speed and comfort. For me it goes price, reliability, efficiency. Looks and a trigger do not matter to me.

[Thordic]

It definitely matters.

I went from a 9-10lb setup (Minimag with warp and flatline) to a 4-5 lb setup (custom RT I built for light weight) and I felt that my game improved immediately. Granted thats a HUGE difference, but it does make the case for light weight.

I was able to snap shoot quicker, move around quicker on the field, etc. A couple ounces here and there may not matter, but it adds up fast if you get the lightest marker, lightest tank, etc.

[BigEvil]

Not only take a good hard look at your needs, but be smart about your purchases. I play speedball and scenario, I need LP and HP for my different guns, so I picked up an adjustable tank and long ago purchased a Redz big game pack that works for speedball, but can also hold the tank on a remote for those crazy long humps in sceario games. Does it suck that my tank weighs 500lbs? Does it suck that I have to go crazy on the plumbing with a non-screw in tanks - yes, but I also dont have to lug two or three different ones in my gear bag.

There are TONS of options, dont quickly go with whats popular right now.

[jenarelJAM]

I do agree with you. However, I only complained when I was dealing with a 3 day scenario game and to be honest, it was not that bad. I had started lifting weights a few months back just so my arms wouldn't die when I played in the scenario. It's not like I'm weak, I just needed the endurance.

However, I find it odd that you look for a decent trigger/board combo as your second requirement for a new marker. I guess that just falls under personal speed and comfort. For me it goes price, reliability, efficiency. Looks and a trigger do not matter to me.

Yeah, I understand that on a 3 day scenario, you would want to drop as much weight as possible. I apologize if my coment came out overgeneralized.

Efficiency is up there on my list too, but I wasn't thinking of it at the time of post(haven't played in awhile). The reason trigger/board is so high on my list is because now I'm used to tadao, and looking at my friend with his angel, I'd never wan't that board. It takes too long to start up, too hard to adjust settings, etc. I don't care so much if my board is capable of firing at 35+ bps. The trigger really has its own group, the feel of the grip/trigger. I like a blade trigger, and I like a thin grip.

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

I have to agree with the guys on the "try and get in better shape " side of the equation. I look at scenario games as a good reason to ramp up my workout schedule to meet the challenge of the game. I've been using an A5 with all the bells and whistles for quite some time before the E-Mag I now use. Sure its easier to carry an Ego, but if you're really wheezing after a couple of hours carrying the heavier markers out there --- then you should address your physical conditioning.

IMO- If you're in good health - then there should be no reason why you can't build up your speed and endurance for using heavier equipment. Its not like you're carrying an extra 5 lbs of marker -- the effect of the weight difference is more psycological than actual. But if your game is speedball, I can see a lighter setup helping to a degree in reaction times to get on target faster.

HLD...

[JRingold]

I hope this was said with complete sarcaism in mind...

You couldn't tell by the way I typed it?

I've found another correlation... When I use a lighter marker, I use less paint. When I shoot a heavier marker, I shoot more paint. It's like a one case to three comparison...

[electriceel125]

You people know nothing of weight! Try out my nasty typhoon. Double barrel full brass. Two revvies full of paint and a 68 4500 tank. That thing is a monster that could be considered a lethal beating weapon.

[Shives]

I like a lite gun, it off-sets the tank




Shives

[deathstalker]

People use poor logic when discussing weight, not to mention no one can verify the difference in weight makes a significant difference. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with people when it comes to weight, just questioning how they know they are correct. Have they run time trials on themselves? I'm willing to bet there is a difference when one compares the heaviest markers available to the lightest, but I'm also willing to bet there is no significant difference when markers weighing close to each other are used.

In other words, someone who has used a Tippmann for a while will notice a huge difference when handed an Ego. Their game might change as well. However, someone already using, say, an '05 Ego will not notice a difference when handed an SL-66 and their game will not be any different. The smaller the difference in weight, the more difficult it is to determine. There has been quite a bit of research conducted on this.

*EDIT*
Besides, how much lighter is that former M-98 toting player going to be when he switches to a lighter marker like an Ego, but has to carry three more pods for all the extra paint he shoots?

[SR_matt]

well its kind of like runners and swimmers, while the little stuff doesnt make a huge differance but it does make you a little bit faster (and the sport is comming to the point that if some one can get to the 50 .2 seconds before the other one they can get the better posistion in enough time to shoot the other guy).

and think about it, if the millitary could amke there guns less than a 1 pound they would so its kind of the same basic idea.
-matt

[BigEvil]

I like a lite gun, it off-sets the tank




Shives

WOW great tank. I had one of those until PMS lost it. :-(