Is AGD DOA?

[JRingold]

my mag shoots. all the time. it may not be THE fastest. but its accurate and would you want me on your team if my gun only worked half the time?

angels/timmys/egos etc... dont.

what the problem is?

QFT

I was out yesterday and every marker on the field other than my two Mags had issues. The Spyders, the Tippmanns, the Intimidators, every single one. We sat out 30 minutes at a time waiting for someone to fix something. The X-Mag and the RT-Pro shot flawlessly, without any issues.

[LinearGoose]

Well most any markers will work everyday with proper matenance and care. That being said some makers require more than others. I had a Tippmann, keeped it in top shape. Oiled it cleaned and everything after every game. Sold it to my cousin and by the 3 month it was broken becasue he never oiled it or cared to much about it. I see it alot at my friends field. The thing is a lot of people dont know where to oil there marker or how to care for them properly. The think with Mags is it says Oil and has arrows pointing where. Also it has a diagram of the on/off asemably. How easy could it? Also taking it apart is a breeze. I took apart one of my cousins Spyder and pieces where flying everywhere. So this is some reasons why I love Mags. They stick to the KISS idea and mostly dont veer away from it. MAGS ROCK AND THERE HERE TO STAY!!!

[Lohman446]

The reason you and many others don't shoot mags is you don't believe in them and you are caught up in the current trendy markers set forth by advertisement. The ad world creates trends if done correctly an upgraded Emag or Emag based revised marker could be trendy.

Right We all became hype driven idiots the moment we put down our mags

[hipster]

I own many guns
shockers and ego's, a karnie, but I still shoot a e-mag
I think it shoots better, flater and straighter than any gun I own and with the xmod it is one of the fastest

I just remember when they made a smaller front Battery and were working on a more "front gas threw grip" look for it then they just stopped ????

a lot of the after market co. like deadly wind never realy advertised their products now they don't make any bodies any more

with the advent of bb eyes you would think boards , bodies, and smaller sleek looking batery designs would start rolling off to the production floor-- instead it seems like every one is turning there back on pure mag future endevors

as far a TK - he turned the co. over when it was still inventing ( and did leave it in good hands) so he could pursue his other non paint ball projects and he has quite a lot, you should check out his site and see what he is up to .

but it still leaves the fact that it would not take much jump the mag back into the fore- front of paintball, so why have they stopped???

augmententing and moding other gun components is one thing but why is AGD not keeping pace

[Troen]

The reason you and many others don't shoot mags is you don't believe in them and you are caught up in the current trendy markers set forth by advertisement. The ad world creates trends if done correctly an upgraded Emag or Emag based revised marker could be trendy.

well no, theres just room for improvement
an emag is a hybrid gun, there could be so much more improvements if agd wanted to make them, a fully electric would be absolutly sweet. sure, you can say "emag is fine" but if you had to choose between a dm6 and an emag, what would you choose? personally, id choose a dm6, and not because its trendy

[DoomWithAnXmag]

The reason you and many others don't shoot mags is you don't believe in them and you are caught up in the current trendy markers set forth by advertisement. The ad world creates trends if done correctly an upgraded Emag or Emag based revised marker could be trendy.


Not really. I guess other popular marker designs are spring chickens? Emags came out in 2k and the xmag after that. To me that isn't too old. The valve technology is older, but it still is what it says it is," the fastest recharging valve". Not old to me. Maybe if I was trading off markers every 6 months or so it would be consisdered old? If Agd would get off there arses and update a few simple things and market it, it would be a very competive marker with a broarder fan base. Market it well enough it could even be trendy.

Actually Yes really. They are. Cars 30 years ago had all the same basic systems new cars do. They had (well some) 4 valve 4-6 or 8 cyclinder engines some even with fuel injection. They had power windows, steering blah blah blah and they went the same speed as many cars today. Guess what ? Yep they are still OLD. Marker development just like most everything else is about evolution not revolution. What keeps something current is the little tweaks and upgrades that keep it in line with the current state of the art. What you all do not seem to grasp is that new milling and a couple grams here or throwing a clamp neck on there IS what makes a marker current and not out of date. Mags are in fact falling ... fallen behind modern markers. I agree that a few onces lighter or couple mm smaller or being able to shoot faster then anyone will allow may not actually make a differnce on the field with equal players but it is still the mark by which marker development is measured. If small developments did not matter we would plod along with the same products year after year and would not have smaller lighter faster cars, computers or music players.
Yes, AGD makes a good gun but in now way does a ULE custom for $600 (mine was over $600 with all the upgrades straight from AGD) compare to a modern electro in the same price range. An E-mag for $900 with no eyes no tourney modes a huge battery no clamp neck pathetic grips and a trigger that feels like you took it off a piece of farm equipment? How does that compare to say the new bargain EGO for $700 which is faster, lighter, more advanced, smaller, better looking, more efficent, more adjustable, cheaper and just as reliable? It dosen't that is the answer. I think AGD makes an GREAT product. I also think they just do not care to stay competative in the industry and no matter how many die hard AGD people there are they will at some point die out unless they start keeping up.