Logic Ultimate Mech Mag Frame

[going_home]

I AGREE >>>

Agreed, I love mine. AGD should license the design and sell it on RT Pro's instead of the intelliframe.

They could offer it as a 50.00 upgrade or something.
Its a great idea robnix !

[nate2k191]

with all the good reviews i've heard, i'd buy one, even if i had to sell some gear

[CoolHand]

Alright guys, I can see there is significant interest in having them come back.

However, since my situation has changed significantly, so will the way things work around Logic Paintball.

For starters, I'm not going to be retailing my products directly anymore. I'm going start wholesaling to Have Blue at Air Soldier Products.

From now on, he will be doing my distribution exclusively.

This solves a great many of my time crunch issues, as HB will deal with the customers. All I have to do is make the parts and send them to ano.

A few things will change about the packaging. No more allen keys and whatnot, unless HB wants to start packaging them for me. I just don't have time for that stuff anymore. This also means that we won't be as flexible with color choices anymore. You will be able to get gloss black, maybe red or blue (big maybe there, and if we do, it will be like 10 of each per batch), and raw unassembled. This reduces HB's stock and let him and me both sell at a much closer margin.

They'll still come with safeties, assuming I can still buy them from AGD. If not, they'll still accept the CF frame safety, but not come with them.

Whatever else changes, I will always stand behind the products with my logo on them, that much you can always count on.

I have a great many things I wanted to do with Mags still, but I just don't have time anymore to do them all myself. If I can delegate successfully, this will increase my involvement many fold.

Overall, what I do in the future greatly depends on how this batch of frames goes over with HB and you all.

[syl58]

so does that mean now is the time to flood have blue's email? or has he already started a distribution plan?

[nate2k191]

awesome coolhand, i'm glad you are doing what you can for us. it's much appreciated.

[CoolHand]

so does that mean now is the time to flood have blue's email? or has he already started a distribution plan?

NO, don't inundate HB yet, I don't even know what they're gonna cost yet, let alone when I can have a batch done.

I do have an anodizer lined up amazingly enough, and for solid colors, they look like they'll be pretty fast.

How would you all feel about satin colors instead of gloss? It would help keep the costs low and the turnaround quick if they didn't have to polish them. Perhaps even a dust finish?

Problem is that most Mag parts are some form of gloss or at least a dull satin, never as machined. I want them to be cheap, but not at the cost of looking cheap.

At this point, I'm not even sure if HB will want to deal in the quantities I'm used to working in, they may be way above or below what he needs to handle. I dunno yet.

Just hang tight guys, and don't freak him out just yet. If I am going to put out any production parts at all, I need for this arrangement with him to work out.

When I get the deal hashed out with HB, and then I get the time line figured, THEN I'll let you all know what's going down.

If you hear nothing on this front for a while, it means I have nothing to report. Seriously, I'll post when I have news, and not before. I mean it. Really. Don't bug HB at all until you see a link to a product of mine on his site.

That is all for tonight. We shall see what the new week brings.

[Pneumagger]

look into gruntbull anodizing - I just had my mag done there (excellent job). For markers it's about $5.50 apeice for a dust finish solid color so I Imagine you could save some money on a very quality anno there.

If you get dust black UMF's, I'm definately in. Then I'll have 3 different logic frames for 1 gun All I would need is the original logic Vert to complete my collection.

Also, can you consider including some good looking grips with those (like a version of the old logic frymarks)

[CoolHand]

look into bruntbull anodizing - I just had my mag done there (excellent). For markers it's about $5.50 apeice for a dust finish solid color so I Imagine you could save some money on a quality anno there.

If you get dust black UMF's, I'm definately in. Then I'll have 3 different logic frames for 1 gun

Indeed, I've heard good things from now over a dozen different places, and I've been approached by them in an effort to win my business. They look hungry, and their ano looks to be high quality. What I like most is that they have been anodizing for quite some time now, just not paintball parts.

I have grown not to trust any ano company who rings me up looking to do all my work and I find that they've been anodizing in their garage for about three weeks.

These guys look to be not too bad at all. I'm fixing to send off a batch of stuff to see how they do, and get a price quote. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

Ok, now this really is all for tonight. I mean it. Seriously.

[Pneumagger]

well here is their work firsthand (click for closeup)...totally flawless. They even installed my feedneck with locktite for me free

[going_home]

Dont Use Fbm ! >>>>>>

I cant reccomend Fireball Mountain for anodizing.
I sent them a blue Xvalve and got the marker parts back 2 tone:

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=a4315526.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch8

I emailed them that I was not happy and felt ripped off and never got a response.
I always got a response from emails before that.

http://www.airsoldier.com is who I get my macroline from.
I've been looking at that M98 pump kit he has on there.
I'm guessing he will add the UMF to his sight somewhere
when the time comes.

My opinion dust anodizing would be fine. Xvalves arent a true gloss anyways.

[CoolHand]

Oh yes, you can count on FBM not doing anything of mine.

They screwed me a few times about six years ago, when I was first starting out. Not going back for seconds on that, not to mention that they are known knock-off artists if not outright thieves.

Don't ever trust those guys, with anything.

I like dust ano personally. It's fast, it's easier to apply, it's cheaper to apply, AND it wears better in real life. That's a win/win IMO.

Still, some things look better in a nice wet gloss.

We'll see, I'll have them do a few parts, in a few colors, in both finishes.

[nate2k191]

i'd love a gloss one to go with all my other glossed aftermarket parts, but i might buy one if its dust also.

[Dartshot123]

I would totally buy one of these if they came back out. I wanna build myself a nice mech mag sometime soon anyway, maybe even get it pneu'd.

[Pacifist_Farmer]

If your still looking for more reasons to make them, I'll buy one.

[Lenny]

If this thing's a go for sure, put me down for 2, raw.

I already have one and it is pure crack. The comfort of EVERYTHING is unmatched! The way it sets my tank, the hump on the back, the way the finger marks on grips angle upward.

The closest thing to heroine in the world of paintball!

EDIT: Do you still make them for Shockers? If so, I may consider buying one...