brass eagle a VERY good brand????

[Vegeta]

BE had good pumps back a long time ago, before the CEO started doing bong hits while developing products.

My friend has a original Stingray (not a II) and he has had it four or five years, never had problems with it, but... its just not safe. For one, I don't belive there is a velocity adjustment screw, which is WRONG. It is also the HARDEST gun to cock. I mean they give you this little bitty cocking rod which looks more like a screw head than an arm in my opinion. And third, they make it out of PLASTIC. It may be just me, but I don't want to buy a gun that could be harmed if I left it in my car for a half a day in the summer.

[HoppysMag]

I give you exibit 1. http://www.jtusa.com/proteusinfo.html
A mask made by JT under BE owner ship.....
I donno bought u but my old Pre BE mask never had any problems even close to this safty hazard. the biggest problem i had was the foam was uncomfetable for the first time i used my mask.

[mac2k4]

Jt still makes them though, but that can really happen to any company, like AGD's super bolt stuff... or that PMI traccer gun that had to be recalled.

like both companys, they were prolly in a lil' rush to get'em out and they screwed up a lil' no big dael, they got re-called, money back... every things all good.
but brass eagle doesn't really focuss any thing to higher level players, just begining and lower level rec. ballers.

[HoppysMag]

thats not really my point.... but nice one referin to the superbolt, i got burnt il admit that......

Its just BE has to stop making things outta plastic. they try to make it overly complicated and still plastic. IE: the mask, do you really need clear plastic ear covers???
As for there guns and other products ( VL ) they gotta make them outta stronger stuff. My friends new VL hopper litterly exploded when a paintball hit it. It is noticably thinner material over the old ones.
If the put the talon in some form of metal then im sure it would be a decent gun, mabey a little more money, but still it would break when you trip. They are focusing on the low end players and quanity WAY over Quality.

[punk3rs]

BE is responsible for bringing lots of people to paintball.
Not everyone can afford a $500 marker, or even a $200.
I dont even know why this thread hasn't been deleted, all it is, is a thread for the flaming of BE.

[HoppysMag]

dude its a friendly discousion. sure not many people can aford 200 but what about a 68$ spyder? its not that we hate BE ( well i Dislike them but not quite HATE) its just they have some quality issues.

[HoppysMag]

Mods do you think we are flaming? If so just tell us and we will stop. Cause i dont think this is a flame. But otheres think elsewise.

[Quiet]

Brass Eagle make the Viewloader stuff and people don't seem to complain about that, but I prefer to put round paint in my mag.

[InfinatyBPS]

Spyders piss me off...

Why don't they fix the dang problems they have, like hmm the freaking 1.5" trigger pull. Or mabe those retarded bottom line screw placment. And make the frame able to open up, there are absolutly nothing u can do to a stock spyder trigger cause there is no way to open up the frame. How hard is it to get into their heads that these things make their guns suck. Dang.

[paintbattler]

im not even reading the resonses. the anser is: NO

[RaV3n_Pa1ntba||]

barral plug, cleaning rode

Heh...

[paintball8869]

everyone that says BE sucks and gets pissed at people who say agd sucks is a complete hypocrit. What you people don't realize is that BE does not have to or want to focus on high end markers. It's just plain out dumb. Think about it from a business standpoint. Sell a few $1000 markers (talking about 1000 sales per year) or sell 100,000 Stingray 2 markers. HMMMM. I think i'd sell the Stingray 2. Just from a profit margin standpoint.

Second, the new Revvys have a different body that doesn't break anywhere near as easily as the old ones. It's even tougher than the PreBE revvy shell. Second, the fixed the problems with the revvy sunlight issues and got rid of the delay with the Xboard.

I dislike brass eagle so much i crossed of the Name Daisey on my BB gun! ( Daisey makes BE)

WRONG. BE is its own company, run by BE, owned by BE.

said "Look this thing sucks" "go down the road like a mile and you will find Point Blank paintball."

Ouch. And i bet they bent you over and sodomized you there. Sorry, i just have a little problem with their overpriced merchandise. But I do agree with you on getting a gun better than a talon, just not the prices Point Blank charges.

ya stingrays have a tendency to explode.

mmmk. Depends on the user. If you are a complete idiot, then you could make it explode. I've had 3 (which i've proceeded to destroy by playing with them and dremel tools) and none of them have had problems not caused by myself. I know a lot of people very satisfied with their stingrays and raptors (maybe not so much the rainmaker).

And third, they make it out of PLASTIC. It may be just me, but I don't want to buy a gun that could be harmed if I left it in my car for a half a day in the summer.

I'll pay for the shipping to send you the body of my last remaining stingray 2. It's made out of ZYTEL. Look for it on the net, it's pretty damn strong plastic. No, it's not metal, but it's pretty damn strong in it's own right. If i send this to you, i want you to keep it intact and run it over a couple times with your car. See how cracked it gets (not very if any cracks appear at all). Then take it and put it on your stove, turning the stove up at small increments. See what temp it melts at, i bet it's not 120 degrees F, i'm betting it's above 200* F. (and i'll put money on that, not in my state because it's illegal, but definitely if i was in vegas)

Why don't they fix the dang problems they have, like hmm the freaking 1.5" trigger pull. Or mabe those retarded bottom line screw placment.

I totally agree. While BE isn't as quick of a company to fix things as AGD is (we all know BE is about a year slower in fixing their problems than AGD who fixes them almost immediately), it's still quicker than Kingman. How long has kingman had a huge trigger pull on the spyders? How long have the spyders had too small of a valve chamber, thus NEEDING the "LPC" or high volume cell as it should be called? How long have those bottom line screws been offset and nonconforming to everything else in the industry?

I prefer to put round paint in my mag

Yeah, square paint doesn't shoot too well. However, you need to realize that the majority of problems with the new BE paint comes from Walmart. I know the guys that store it at my local Walmart, it gets left on trucks, left in hot storage areas, left in cold storage areas, thrown around, etc. They make it no secret that they are rough with a majority of their products. If you go to certain paintball fields, you'll find BE paint in unmarked cases. Funny thing is that this paint shoots just fine because it is stored correctly. I've personally never had a problem with BE paint once i learned how to buy it. I only buy the stuff up front because the stuff at the back is just old old paint and i make sure to buy stuff without ball breaks. I only buy like 200 rounds anyways, just when i need to test fire my gun with paint in it and don't want to order it and wait a few days to get it.

Oh yeah, my raptor is pretty nice right now. I kinda like it. It's not my main gun, but i can get it going as fast as i had my old mag going, so i can't complain. And it's shooting at 290 psi right now (280fps). I like it.



waiting for Palmers Pursuit to send back my LP Stabilizer (had it converted from HP to LP)

[SGTKennedy]

my biggest beef with raptors is the link pin between the bolt and striker, they break easy and either you pay 8 bucks to get one from BE or you go to walmart and pay 10 for a rebuild kit.

I like stingrays. not the new ones. the long barreled ones. they shoot well enough and if you bury it in the snad/mud or whack it against a tree you dont have to worry about your pretty freak kit getting damaged.

[SoupRman]

i'm sorry guys but the only brass eagle i would ever buy would be the one pictured below...

[paintball8869]

AntwanRt.......BE fixed the raptor linkage pin problem. They've got a thicker pin made of stainless steel now instead of the thin aluminum one.