brass eagle a VERY good brand????

[Vegeta]

Little history on the Stingray:
They USED to make them outa Zytel... thats the kind my friend has.. its strong.. I admit. It has taken abuse. Now my otehr friend bought a new stingray about 3 months ago. I was a purple see through POS. And it was made out of glass-filled polymer. I belive. Something glass filled I remember. Not as strong as the Zytel. I belvie they couldn't amke the Zytel material transparent so they scarificed strength for (edit) looks. Thats BE for ya.

Edit: There. I got to it first. TAKE THAT!

[sniper1rfa]

the llink pins still suck...

i made a new one for mine that is SOLID stainless. it only get thinner by about 1/16" at the last 1/2 ". ive never understood why its so "fancy".

Edit: D'OH!

[sniper1rfa]

the llink pins still suck...

i made a new one for mine that is SOLID stainless. it only get thinner by about 1/16" at the last 1/2 ". ive never understood why its so "fancy".

[paintball8869]

my bad. I totally forgot about the see through ones. I was talking about the black ones. You're probably right about the transparent and colored ones.

[HoppysMag]

BE is its own company, run by BE, owned by BE.

paintball8869 - are you 100 percent sure? cause iv seen elswise. Im gunna email BE and ask.

Sorry, i just have a little problem with their overpriced merchandise. But I do agree with you on getting a gun better than a talon, just not the prices Point Blank charges.

Where Do you live in MA? Ya i hate there prices too, but it was my first gun and all so.



As for the stingray thing, the gun was fine it worked and all. well until the bolt ( or sumthin like that, im not familiar with the workins of BE guns besides the TALONS) shot out the barrel! and the rest of the contens began to break too.

[paintball8869]

If i remember correctly, Daisy came first (previous name of BE) while BE was still in Canada. Then they moved down to Alabama or Arkansas (wherever they are now) and are definitely BE now. It's a weird situation, i'll have to call someone at BE to find the exact story. But as of right now, BE is BE, owned and operated by BE (of this i'm 100% sure).

I'm from West Brookfield MA.....i'm going to school at Western New England College in Springfield.

[kutter]

For some reason I am thinking that Brass Eagle is a british company or was a british company, or maybe I am wrong...

Anyway, I had a BE gun that had the same internals as the original Stingrays in like 94 or 95 but it was an all metal gun. I can't remember what it was called, mabe a Scorpion? While it certainly was not the best gun I ever owned, it was still a pretty good product, especially for what I paid for it.

It is unfortunate though that BE has decided to go so far to the low end market, only because quality does seem to have gone completely out the window on their low end stuff. As far as their high end stuff goes, I have a JT mask and Revolution. Both of those products perform flawlessly and I would certainly buy them again, not that I need to of course.

[Aranarth]

BE

I don't have any problems with vl products, and don't use any jt products. But be paint SUCKS. And my first gun was a raptor. After about two weeks, traded it in on a shutter. Good shop. The thing busted balls left and right. Probably the stock barrel, but I wanted something stock. The cocking pin just would not stay in. Lost it. So I played without it in. Little did I know that it held in the link pin. Lost that. Replaced both. Played. It still sucked. Thats when I got rid of it.
-AranarthX

[InfinatyBPS]

the one problem I have had with my raptor is the sear and striker wear, its realy bad ever 3000 rounds you have to replace on or the other. But other than that its great. Nice trigger after I did a little work.

[bushjumper]

Brass Eagles makes complete crap. It's sad they bought JT and Viewloader and are responsible for the new Revolutions, Eggolutions, and Proteus masks. They havn't managed to f**k up the jerseys or gloves yet, but give them some time.

I bought a brass eagle VL Revolution because there really wasn't another motorized loader out there when I got it. The ricochet had just came out and the local store didn't have any. My revvy lasted about 6 months before the plastic broke. I duct taped it back together and as soon as it finishes falling apart I'll be getting a ricochet AK or a halo. (probably the ricochet).

I bought an original nightmare pump, and boy let me tell you that it was one gun that lived up to it's name. I took it back and bought a Tippmann, which lasted me the next 10 years. In fact, it still works fine (the tippmann that is. The BE never once worked right) but I sold it on ebay to pay for my RetroValve.

They USED to make them outa Zytel... thats the kind my friend has.. its strong.. I admit. It has taken abuse. Now my otehr friend bought a new stingray about 3 months ago. I was a purple see through POS. And it was made out of glass-filled polymer. I belive. Something glass filled I remember. Not as strong as the Zytel. I belvie they couldn't amke the Zytel material transparent so they scarificed strength for (edit) looks. Thats BE for ya.

I don't know what they make stingrays out of. BUT, Zytel is just the trade name for fiberglass reinforced nylon, which is probably what the stuff you are talking about is. As far as I'm concerned though it wasn't the body that was the problem with the gun. It was everything else.

[Snooky]

ok we have had bad experiences with BE. But i have also had problems with other guns such as my spyder i sold off to get a mag.

BE is a good company in my opinion in a couple ways. First they bring many people into the sport by offering guns at fair prices and places u can get them. who doesnt live within 20 minutes or so of a walmart? Once people see and feel what paintball is all about they start to get interested in what they could do to improve their gun. then they find kingman and kingman sells them a spyder because they dont like the plastic feel and the poor quality of BE.

The company i dislike is kingman. my first gun was a spyder that i bought for around 200 dollars and it was full of problems. kingman is very smart in marketing to people in putting their guns in colors which apeal to many people. the only spyder i know that works very well is my friends tl that only is non-stock except the body and a couple o-rings. I really think for the price in my experience your better off going with a BE gun unless u have the money for the step up from the spyder.

Oh and how can i forget the most uncomfortable and shoty looking frame in the world. the AGD stock frame! i mean its great and all but when u have ur beautiful mag and a cheap plastic frame that comes on it u start to think. i really wish that AGD could include a metal grip on the stock mags.

Just my opinions on companies.

[TheTramp]

"Cheap plastic frame" That's very funny. I guess you didn't see the picture of that "cheap plastic frame" holding up a car.

[bushjumper]

"Cheap plastic frame" That's very funny. I guess you didn't see the picture of that "cheap plastic frame" holding up a car.

The fact of the matter is they are cheaper to manufacture than the metal frames, which is why they came about in the first place. I've also seen them crack, so I question the durability.

As for holding up a car, when's the last time you needed your paintgun to do that?

[mykroft]

Well, BE has improved greatly as of late. The new revs and Eggo's are alot better than the first BE versions, JT's stuff seems to have got better since the buyout, I had a pre-BE Flex-7 IZE and it was a POS, kept falling apart, now I've got a BE era V-Force (The second-gen BE Bubbles are identical to the V-Force Shield), excellent goggles, and the Raptor and Rainmaker aren't bad little markers for the $$. The paints junk, but so is everything else sold at your friendly neighbourhood Crappy Tire.

[hardr0ck68]

BE, corperate paintball and it sickens me. Look BE was Canadian it produced brass pump (maybe a few semi) paintball guns that were high end for there day...even today there still not bad in the pump works (man would i like a stock class short barrel nightmare) but they were bought out by daisy, or crossman or some company FOR THERE NAME, the company used the name to market crap. today they buy out companys like VL because they have a good name and good ideas on the drawing boards, they push the ideas threw with minimal testing and mass market them....this is why the EGG sucked, this is why there was a recall on the protus...they build the products as cheaply as possiable (thats why revs that BE first made broke easily, cause hey they can save $$ if they cut down on the thickness of the rev shells). BE is a good way into the sport if you dont have someone to direct you to a M98 or F4 illustrator...

Kingman, well these guys make the same product 124 different ways...maybe they do it in goofy ways, and yes they to are corparate paintball, but they give back to the sport in ways that are good for there products (spyder cup, and payin entry for whatever nppl even that is for any team that shoots all spyders) i dont mind kingman so much because hey everyone owns or has owned or has at least rented/borrowed a spyder...and they dont go around buying good comanies out and turning there product line into
crap-olutions...