All Downhill From Here?

[don miguel]

See AGD does sponsor its players!

Hi Marcia. :)

yeah I told ya (those who said AGD didn't sponsor AO) so!

[quasimorte]

From what i have heard AGD also has government contracts for training equipment as well as less than lethal weapons development. I am not positive of the accuracy of this but this is what i have been lead to believe in the past. so even if the consumer branch of the company appears to be stalled they are still developing and selling to government and law enforcement agencies.

[FeelTheRT]

WTF! Tom K retired?

i stopped playing for 3 years and nothing at AO has changed and it seems to be going down hill. I talk to some of my old PB buddies who all play serious tourny now and they all laugh when i mention AGD ... =[

[PumpMag]

Who laughs last?

WTF! Tom K retired?

i stopped playing for 3 years and nothing at AO has changed and it seems to be going down hill. I talk to some of my old PB buddies who all play serious tourny now and they all laugh when i mention AGD ... =[

My teammates used to snicker at my choice of marker too. But that stopped real quick at practice when they get shot in the head by my well known AGD marker.

[Nick E]

I still think that they should go into some EP stuff. It's damn cheap, if you have the resources, and you'd lose the giant emag battery pack. And to hell with not folling the way of the rest of the market, advertise it! the smarter(and more loyal customers) would see right through it, but you'd still be able to attract the newer crowd who wants "fast, light, and EP!"
Just because they're still afloat now doesn't mean it'll stay that way for too long. I see one other person at my field with a mag, and a few of the refat the field and sales guys in stores have recognized it, said how they loved it, but got rid of it after it started getting hard to find parts and new stuff didn't come out. So I can see where they're coming from, but I still think mag's pwn face. We just need a better way to deliver the extreme speed and consistancy of the valve, out into the mainstream and onto the field.

[warbeak2099]

I still think that they should go into some EP stuff. It's damn cheap,

No it isn't. Especially with the SP/DYE/WDP patent holding situation. AGD would have to pay royalties that it can't afford. Also, R&D would be expensive for an all new, updated EP Mag. Besides, AGD is doing just fine with the rec/scenario market. They'd only lose money if they tried to get back into the tourny scene.

[RavishingEddie]

No it isn't. Especially with the SP/DYE/WDP patent holding situation. AGD would have to pay royalties that it can't afford. Also, R&D would be expensive for an all new, updated EP Mag. Besides, AGD is doing just fine with the rec/scenario market. They'd only lose money if they tried to get back into the tourny scene.

Yeah and I think they would also lose money from the fact that many AOers have found ways to turn their current mags to reasonable speed tourny mags IE: Pmags, Devilmags, Xmoded E/X mags. The need is not as great. The other thing is that they would need to go overseas and it would hurt for me to say that my mag is not built in the good ol USA

[warbeak2099]

What AGD could do however, is try to team up with PTP and actually get the damn Pneuframe out. They already have a prior business relationship with PTP, so no haggling or arguing would be necessary (or not as much).

[don miguel]

they need to bring back some old goodies like the zgrip, and they sould lower thier emag prices to at least 800$. (my opinion)

[Pneumagger]

Word on Ebay is that AGD is going out of business.

[warbeak2099]

they need to bring back some old goodies like the zgrip, and they sould lower thier emag prices to at least 800$. (my opinion)

Once again, there's a nice way to lose money. Very little people would go out and buy a Zgrip. Bringing back old things is stupid and bass ackwards. What they need to do if they want to refresh themselves is get something new going. Like an AGD/PTP Pneuframe. Otherwise, they're fine where they are.

[Arstron]

I would be happy with just new pump kits....