Long range barrel for Mags

[SCpoloRicker]

*giggle*

[cyrus-the-virus]

Hey just thought I'd point this out.....

You can infact put a flatlin on a automag. If I'm not mistaken you can just get a coker-to-98 adapter and use a 98 flatline barrel.

As for barrel's, I personaly like my DYE titanium boomstick.

Just my 0.02

An 18 in barrel will shoot 6" farther than a 12" barrel. Other than that, don't buy equipment to make yourself better. Make yourself better, and then buy new equipment cause it's fun

amen brother

[automikey]

An 18 in barrel will shoot 6" farther than a 12" barrel.

You all know this isn't true, right? So far warbeak2099 is the only one who clearly understands. The distance a ball travels is not measured from the tip of the barrel...

However, I've found that duct-taping two 18 inch barrels together works great for barrel tags, and now I have a use for those 18 inch barrels.

[cyrus-the-virus]

You all know this isn't true, right? So far warbeak2099 is the only one who clearly understands. The distance a ball travels is not measured from the tip of the barrel...

However, I've found that duct-taping two 18 inch barrels together works great for barrel tags, and now I have a use for those 18 inch barrels.

But it will fly 6" straigter than a 12"

[jenarelJAM]

You all know this isn't true, right? So far warbeak2099 is the only one who clearly understands. The distance a ball travels is not measured from the tip of the barrel...

However, I've found that duct-taping two 18 inch barrels together works great for barrel tags, and now I have a use for those 18 inch barrels.

No? I thought it would, since you're measuring velocity from the tip of the barrel, and the tip would be 6 inches farther away from the shooter's body when shooting...
You would have to turn the velocity up to counter the drag from the increased barrel length, but correct me if I'm wrong, if the velocity is the same, it will shoot the same distance. The only difference is where you're starting to measure distance from. Hence, 6 inches difference.

[don miguel]

Just a question: does anyone use the "three point contact" rule, where the ball touches the inner bore of the barell at three points, but can be blown out of it? Because I use it (info from WEBDOG...) and sometimes I find paintballs in my barell if I uncock my tippy. (I used my tippy the other day cuz my micromag was ramping) Is this bad? or is this how it's supposed to work?

[fullofpaint]

Hey just thought I'd point this out.....

You can infact put a flatlin on a automag. If I'm not mistaken you can just get a coker-to-98 adapter and use a 98 flatline barrel.

As for barrel's, I personaly like my DYE titanium boomstick.

Just my 0.02



amen brother

nope doesn't work actually, tippmann made the threads so the barrel will be pointing in the wrong direction or something like that. My friend tried this exact thing but on his cocker

[sTaLa]

I know that according to physics, a ball quiting a barrel at 280 fps will go as far as any other one shot with any other barrel (except flatlines ans apexes).

But when one uses physic laws, it is with absence of air and with a perfectly round projectile. So, say that each gun shoots differently (a cocker is softer than a mag for example), and gives balls a different shape; the ball will have a different coefficient of friction with air depending on its shape, therefore depending on the gun that shot that ball.

So, I agree that different barrels on the same gun will all shoot at the same distance (except flatlines ans apexes); but don't you think that distances can change according to the markers?

P.S. Sorry if it's written akwardly: I'm not used to elaborate my theories in English.
P.P.S. Quite off topic... but that discussion made me bring that argument.

[warbeak2099]

Hey just thought I'd point this out.....

You can infact put a flatlin on a automag. If I'm not mistaken you can just get a coker-to-98 adapter and use a 98 flatline barrel.

There is no such adapter. The M98 threads are too large so they never made the adapter. I spoke to Colin at Lapco about this a while ago.

[Hexis]

, but don't you think that distances can change according to the markers?.

Nope, once the leave the barrel they go the same distance. The only thing you can really do anything about is the consistancy, which will manifest itself as accuracy. Outputting each ball with the same velosity will put each ball in the same place down range as well. Paintballs do not deform in the gun. One model can not shoot further or flatter than another.

[sTaLa]

Paintballs do not deform in the gun.

Well, I've got some difficulties to believe it. With all the pression that pushes so fast on a small gelatine ball, it's hard to believe that it is not deformed at all.

I remember around the year 2000, they used to say that cocker had a more flat trajectory that would end fast; while mags had more a kind of parabolic trajectory (if I can say so). The ported tips were also to allow the balls to regain their round shapes before quiting the barrels.

The only important thing these days seem to be the bore match. I'm not saying it is not important, only that there are other factors.

[Hexis]

You can have all the diffiiculty you want, doesn't make it any less real.

Think about it, inside the barrel the pressure isquit high, but it's pushing on the ball. To deform the ball, the pressure would have to be different on one part of the ball. How long do you think that situation would be able to last inside the breach?

[automikey]

No? I thought it would, since you're measuring velocity from the tip of the barrel, and the tip would be 6 inches farther away from the shooter's body when shooting...
You would have to turn the velocity up to counter the drag from the increased barrel length, but correct me if I'm wrong, if the velocity is the same, it will shoot the same distance. The only difference is where you're starting to measure distance from. Hence, 6 inches difference.

You measure velocity from the tip of the barrel, but you measure distance traveled from the paintball's starting position to it's ending position. The barrel tip is farther away, but the ball is still starting in the same place.

These discussions always end up talking about theories that are hard to prove due to the number of variables that are so hard to control.

I think Tom did some testing and found the best setup for accuracy, consistency and efficiency to be an 11" barrel. He may have also determined that a paintball needs a close-fitting bore length of approximately 5 inches for the same reasons (I remember because I learned this right after getting my Stiffi kit with 2" sizers...).

I've had great results with the 12" freak barrel.

Cyrus- great comment, I guess an 18" barrel is also more accurate than a 12" barrel, at least from inch 12 to inch 18. Next time someone at the field brings this up, I might just shoot them at point blank and say "yeah, but my barrel is more accurate" :) .

Don- The paintballs should almost roll out on their own. I have yet to shoot a paintball round enough to have 3 contact points.


Hexis & stala- Some people say that a low pressure marker, say DM or PM or even my Nova, will deform the ball less upon firing than a high pressure marker (Mags). The idea is that as the ball returns to it's original shape (after the force of being fired), it is actually changing shape in the air during flight, which is bad for accuracy. A low pressure marker will supposedly cause less of this. Now go prove it. Get one of Tom's old clear plastic barrels and have a blast.


Too much talking, not enough paintballing!!!

[Sir_Brass]

I'm probably going to burn from the flaming for saying this but....

Drags over fire exiguisher (sp)...

I recommend the HammerHead system if money isn't a major issue for a few reasons.

Pulls pin...

The hammer Head has the BEST quality for any paintball product that I've ever invested in. This includes, well everything markers, masks hell even pods, Hammer Heads processing is astonishing to me.
The weight of the barrel is rediculuos (sp), I got the whole kit and they sent me a free case (gotta love it when you promo for them) and I thought they just sent me the case becuase I picked it up and it felt empty. Low and behold there's a 14" tip with 5 backs 2 sizers and some thread protectant.
Everything about this barrel was clean, lightweight and top notch quality.

Aims nozzle...

This thing is the most accurate barrel I have ever shot, I've used Freaks, J&J, CP, and Pipes and this thing is a nail driver. Whatever the vodoo they do with the riffling works, flat out. The ball doesn't even grip the riffled edge, the poors just move the air around the ball. The thing is quet and sesky...

Squints and holds the handle waiting for the flame...

Yes its a riffled barrel that is balls on accurate.

As ussual sorry for the spelling... and the over use of ...

Amen, man.

I own a full HH kit and I absolutely LOVE IT! The only thing they could do better is to make a .680 fin (I play in BC scenarios....their karnage premium paint is TINY...it even drops through the .683 fin in my kit).

[Armory]

Amen, man.

I own a full HH kit and I absolutely LOVE IT! The only thing they could do better is to make a .680 fin (I play in BC scenarios....their karnage premium paint is TINY...it even drops through the .683 fin in my kit).

Oh yeah, I find myself looking for .68 back now even at my local fields. I'd kill to get some .689 paint now.