best electric paintball gun that uses CO2?

[Shane-O-Mac]

They were brought out for the old shoebox shockers, which are horrible gas hogs. You could fill a 68ci tank to 26-28 ounces or so. They recomended 24 ounces, but.............

And 26 ounces of Co2 was as much gas as a 114/4500 HPA tank.

Oh and back then a 68/3000 was like $300, and a 68/4500 was like $400+

Shane-O

[benzy2]

Ive been around for a while but have never given co2 a chance in a gun past your standard blowback. Ive been able to find enough HPA fills and had enough guns that I could use the HPA tank till it was gone and then switch to a different gun that I didnt fear blowing the noid in. I understand good and well what CO2 can and cant do and what its goods and bads are. I dont need to be taught on that.

What my question has to do with are the regs out there. Obviously the stab has for years been given rave reviews for both HPA and co2 use. First what makes it so different than all the other regs that it takes "Top place"? Second, has anyone done consistancy checks on pressures of CO2 to see what the spikes coming out of it are? I can only listen to so much hype. I want to hear of actual results when it was put under extreme stress. I want to know at the least what its consistancy was over the chrono when using co2 and having some gun max its board out. Does it starve the marker if you use two of them to safe gaurd from liquid co2? Last I know the mag valves like both HPA and a high input pressure, which makes finding a reg to run co2 through first even harder, so what is the best option for running co2 through an rt/x valve setup?

I guess I just have enough access to HPA that I never took the chance of using (with or without a good reg) on markers that ran an air noid. I have been in and out of having HPA available of late and the idea of running off of the cheaper and more available co2 is sounding better and better. I trust a few of the people posting here to not give a hyped up response(which I cant say if I asked on pbn).

[Shane-O-Mac]

Ive been around for a while but have never given co2 a chance in a gun past your standard blowback. Ive been able to find enough HPA fills and had enough guns that I could use the HPA tank till it was gone and then switch to a different gun that I didnt fear blowing the noid in. I understand good and well what CO2 can and cant do and what its goods and bads are. I dont need to be taught on that.

What my question has to do with are the regs out there. Obviously the stab has for years been given rave reviews for both HPA and co2 use. First what makes it so different than all the other regs that it takes "Top place"? Second, has anyone done consistancy checks on pressures of CO2 to see what the spikes coming out of it are? I can only listen to so much hype. I want to hear of actual results when it was put under extreme stress. I want to know at the least what its consistancy was over the chrono when using co2 and having some gun max its board out. Does it starve the marker if you use two of them to safe gaurd from liquid co2? Last I know the mag valves like both HPA and a high input pressure, which makes finding a reg to run co2 through first even harder, so what is the best option for running co2 through an rt/x valve setup?

I guess I just have enough access to HPA that I never took the chance of using (with or without a good reg) on markers that ran an air noid. I have been in and out of having HPA available of late and the idea of running off of the cheaper and more available co2 is sounding better and better. I trust a few of the people posting here to not give a hyped up response(which I cant say if I asked on pbn).

I think the Stab is better because of the o-rings and seat material are more compatible with Co2. I have had excellent results with AA Vigilante's and Messiahs, when you change the piston o-ring to a 16-90, a harder durometer rating. Many people have had good success with AKA Sidewinders. If you use a female Stab (Bottomline style) and a Co2 tank with an anti-siphon tube installed to match the stab, and treat the whole set-up as an HPA tank. Your stock reg on the gun will usally work fine with the above set-up. Now there is much debate about using Co2 on x-valves and Rt's. Basicly you shouldn't do it. next spring I am going to try and do it myself, I have a few ideas of my own.

For optimum Co2 use, you set the female stab at around 550ps (one of the reasons its hard to use for X-mags). Co2 cant stay liquid below 600psi. As for consistancy, I have used a dual stab set-up and gotten +/-3 fps, which is as good as I have gotten from ANY air system.

As for shooting long strings at a high rate of fire, I wouldnt wail on the gun like normal if its an electro. Strings of 6-10 balls works well, with a 5-10 second break in between. A mech gun, shoot away. Although, I can shoot my shoebox at 11bps all day long with the max-flow running Co2. That gun works better with Co2 though. Also realize that the outside temp is a hUGE factor, if its below 50 degrees outside, shoot slower. Also, dont put any cover on a Co2 tank, that just keeps the tank colder, and keeps the liquid from boiling off as quick. If its 80-90 degrees outside, go to town. Also, dont forget that you cannot leave your Co2 tank in the direct sunlight, boom goes the burst disk..... :rofl:

Shane-O

[LudavicoSoldier]

shoebox shocker!

[cyrus-the-virus]

While surfing the forum's I came acrost this

http://www.xtremez.com/paintball/product_information.asp?number=RGCA&variation=AA&aitem=&mitem=&back=yes&dept=428#fulldesc

I thought it was an interesting find.

[Shane-O-Mac]

Waste of $44.99 plus shipping....lol

Really those arent any good at all. For that kind of money, get a stock WGP reg, of any stock cocker (2K4 and older, not sure of the newer ones). You can find them used for $15 alot of times. and then having an anti-siphon put on your tank. Although that would only work on guns that dont adjust pressure for velocity. The WGP Ergo regs are good for Co2 and easily adjusted externaly for guns that adjust velocity that way.

Shane-O