What Would be the MOST Important Next Advance???

[Thordic]

Smaller caliber paintballs would render all existing guns useless, though. There is no way the sport would handle millions of guns suddenly being unusable..

[hitech]

I rarely agree with the "crowd", but this time I do. I want paint that always breaks on my target and never in my marker. If I could afford it I would buy an Extreme Emag. Not because of the ROF, but because you can't short stroke it and the ACE should eliminate chops.

Less expensive paint is another big item. It is expensive to play.

[manike]

Originally posted by udtseal
Why .68cal? I would think if we could significantly lower the size of the paintball that we could squeak out greater range, smaller hoppers maybe, lighter weight, less susceptible to wind, etc. Thats just what I think, i dont know if its possible or not.

Smaller paint has less range at the same energy levels, is less accurate and less likely to break, and more likely to penetrate ... It's been tried.

.68 Tends to be best all around which is why it is used.

I remember playing with .62 cal paint, .68 Cal was better even then.

manike

[BarryTolar]

Paint Breakage

Yup,

Sunday playing it was horrible.

Started off ok and then chopped so I cleaned.

Next game chop chop chop (I'm assuming it's cause I was holding mag at an angle instead of verticle. So I guess a Warp will fix it but I'm not sure)

So I clean and swap out barrels. Everything is fine for a few shots, then balls start flying like crazy. No paint in the barrel so I can't figure it out. Get off field and notice nubbin is broke, plus a little paint that I missed while on field.

Now I had a bad day but everybody else was having paint problems. Angels were busting paint all day. Saturday I'm working on a STO a buddy bought and has already screwed up. Fresh bag a PMI Premium. This paint was busting from a waist high drop on EVERY drop.

Sorry for the long long post.

Get us paint that will survive long enough to be shot, that's all I ask.

Barry

[Dave]

Ok, this just came to me. It was the very first thing on my mind as soon as I saw the post. I think it would be very cool to have a break apart barrel thread joint. Let me explain. It would be almost exactly like a shotgun works. You flip some sort of lever, and the beginning of the barrel pops open, allowing you to put the cartriges inside. Another example would be the break apart barrel design of many air rifles. They break apart right at the beginning of the barrel for you to put the pellet in. Now, the reason for this, on a paintball gun, would be paint breaks. Let say your in a game, and your in the heat of combat. All of the sudden a ball breaks. YOu try shooting through it, no go. So then, with the hand your using to hold the foregrip up, you crack the barrel open with a flick of the wrist on the lever, then getting your squeegie out, you slam it down the barrel, take it out, make sure it looks good, then flick your gun up in the air, and that throws the barrel back up, locking it into place. Your ready to go again, and it took you only 10-15 seconds, depending on how fast you can access your squeegie.

1. The benefits of this design are no more messed up barrel threads, since, your not trying to unscrew anything in a hurry

2. Time is not even an issue since you can totally access your barrel in the blink of an eye

3. It can work with screw in barrel types, because the pivot point would be the part that the barrel screws into. In other words, the threaded part that the barrel screws into would be the block that swings down, with barrel attached.

4. Now, don't quote me on this, but, with the barrel and threads all out of the way, you still may be able to shoot paint out of the marker. Since the whole assembly is cocked down 90 degrees, it is completely out of the way of the breech, allowing paint to be shot out. It might be somewhat inaccurate, but just might be possible. And if it was, it would eliminate the vulnerability of cleaning your barrel in a game for close range shots.

The potential probs would be:

I can only thing of one, and that would be the aluminum wearing out due to the lever action several times. This would only be where the cocked piece secured itself back in the upright position, and maybe for that you could have stainless steel inserts or something.

As far as accuracy goes, It probably wouldn't be a prob, cause if you did it right, the barrel would snap right back into play with no play at all, and probably have a few mini guides to make sure it would be correctly aligned. In any cause I would like to see that on a marker. It pretty much eliminates your marker from the equation of ball breaks as far as cleaning ease and time is concerned.

Maybe I can draw a picture to more accurately show it.

Now, onto reading what everyone else came up with!

-Dave

[Dave]

Ok, here is the picture. Not sure if the design is feasible, but it sure would be cool!

-Dave
(edit: Ok, I just thought that if you wanted to be able to shoot while it was open, the pivot point would have to be moved all the way back, so there would be nothing in the line of fire.)

[Gup44]

I also hate paint breakage... It's the worst. I'd rather have a bounce or two in a game then have paint break down the barrel or chop. I agree with all here, that is probably #1.

I'd also like to see AGD make a barrel system like a freak with different bore sizes. Of course it would have to be better then the freak. It should come standard on your higher end markers. It may also help improve breakage to be able to change your bore size.

How about updating the gun's software to include an uplink feature with a matching computer program. Throw some sensor's in different places and then you could do some self diagnostics and make adjustments; look at how your gun is performing. Do a bps test to test your own rof... that kind of stuff. ?? Something that would enable you to SEE what the difference is if you change things (like your input pressure).

[Drizit]

insted of paint that never brakes, or a gun that never brakes it, how about a gun/barrel that is designed spesificly to shoot clean. i don't even carry a squege onto the field with my micro. there's no point, if i brake paint (and before i got a longnose bolt and a warp it was every third ball) i just keept on the trigger and it shot clean. the only problems i had were when i didn't squige all day and it started to cause the gun not to feed.

[lazyrider77]

next advance should be the intelli-Z grip!! this is the most important step, forget about paint breakage. if you don't like breaking balls, just by a shocker.

[manike]

Originally posted by lazyrider77
if you don't like breaking balls, just by a shocker.

The shocker will break paint. Most guns will for different reasons under different circumstances.

A gun that never broke paint would be ideal but I'm not sure it is 100% possible. If it was the paint would just get more and more fragile... but then you'd break it in your loader instead of the gun and barrel.

manike

[Manuel_FZR]

#1: paint brakeage

definitely: #1: paint breakage
then after a long time there would be, in my opinion, weight and size ...

[Restola]

---26bps~rt; 18bps~halo. Take a broader look at the situation and there's really no where to improve...

you have all said what i would say to this question. but i HAD to comment on this.

even taken out of context this statement has been repeated time after time in the computer insustry, in aeronautics, and in any other field you can possibly imagine.

lets NOT stop advancing. i like new toys.

and reading that diablo interview i would have to guess that sometime in the next 5-10 years there will be a major advancement in the production of paintballs.

[Ityl]

gun refinement - NO paintball gun is perfect of even close to it. I would say that the autococker is closest because it can be tuned into perfect, but is very hard to get it to shoot fast (16 bps) and have a constant velocity. Angels aren't consistent in rapid fire. Emags have ~400 psi pushing the bolt into the ball which makes chops more likely, compared to guns that have less than 200 psi. Matrix isn't efficent. Impulse has some wierd first shot low and tallish issues. Shocker is big and can't fire over 12 bps. Once a gun can fire 16 bps, consistently, be in a compact package, negligable paint breakage, fairly gas efficent, and have a reasonable price (under $1500), then I think a new advance will come along, or the advance will be the new gun.

[thecavemankevin]

this is kinda off topic, but i would like to see better marketing from AGD.

Marketing is the key to success!

[Rahman]

definetly ball breakage along with velocity consistency are paramount issues that need to be tackled. but out of context I would like to see an ergonomically designed loader for the warp that would be sweeeet....