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  • Manuel_FZR
    This is my MiniMag ...
    • Oct 2001
    • 563

    #31
    Originally posted by Ityl
    (...)
    Emags have ~400 psi pushing the bolt into the ball which makes chops more likely, compared to guns that have less than 200 psi.
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    • Drizit
      Take me to your Lizzard
      • May 2001
      • 943

      #32
      where did you get that figure??

      the input pressure for a mag is idealy 700-800 psi. the reg then cuts it down to 375-450 psi depending on the velosity, paint, and barrel. that's why when a mag bolt comes forward if the paint isn't all the way infront of it, you rip the ball in half.
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      • LaW
        Why play?
        • Oct 2000
        • 3124

        #33
        Do a search on this topic because I also read somewhere that technically the mag is the lowest pressure gun almost because like manuel said it's like only 60psi behind teh ball...
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        • Bartleby
          Purple People Eater
          • Sep 2001
          • 803

          #34
          i honestly think that one of the major issues that needs to be addressed is the weight of the mag. Now, i don't know the specifics as to why stainless steel is used for everything and i'm sure that it's for some good reason, but there must be a way to cut the load down atleast a little bit.

          When i decided to buy a mag i did so because it's well made, comes with the world's greatest tech support, and it never has any problems. But, when i expressed this to my friends they shunned the idea due to the fact that the mag isn't as light as a well-milled cocker. Ontop of that, once you stack 4lbs of balls and a tank on it, the weight becomes a little more significant.

          Now don't get me wrong, i'm not scrawny and i'm not complaining, rather, i am suggesting due to the fact that there are some out there that look at a marker as something that is going to slow them down and others that view a marker as something that should be managable, and maybe just for that, they'd pick a cocker over a mag.
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          • LaW
            Why play?
            • Oct 2000
            • 3124

            #35
            Playing with an impulse and a full tank setup and then playing with my emag w/ warp and flatline.... once i start playing a game I can't tell a difference.... I don't see why a lot of people complain... it's one of those deciding factors I guess in buying a marker
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            • CHK6
              Registered User
              • May 2001
              • 36

              #36
              I personally dislike ALL hoppers. I dislike how I have to pour or "slam" in paint. I would like pods to be like hoppers. Just like firearms have with magazines. Think of it as taking one empty hopper off and putting another one on.

              I invision something along the lines that a ring collar that you slide a pod into/through and that opens a trap door in the pod. The pod stays in the ring collar acting like a hopper. Then when it's empty you pull out another pod that you use to push the empty pod out and slide in the new pod in it's place. Just one motion like a queue; out with the old and in with the new.

              As for a pure speedball iteam. I really like the warp feed system, but we are still held up by the weakest link of the hopper whizzing around playing some Las Vegas game. I would like to see 150 to 200 round magazine coils that provide a constant push and not worry abount gravity or a dinky paddle. Sure the magazines would have to be preloaded and maybe a seperate machine that loads from a bulk hopper into a magazine for you. I imagine being able to slap on a magazine disk that has a coil of paintball rounds onto a peg. The peg turns and gently applies pressure to the last paintball in the magazine coil. While the game is going on a few relief teammates could be filling the magazine coils from some bulk loader getting ready for the next game or maybe this could be a simple/no spill automated process to reload the magazines.

              Next up would be self adjusting regulators. Either you hook up your marker to a chrony or a chrony is built into the marker. If your shooting to hot the regulator self adjusts and makes corrections for you; same if to low of fps.

              Lastly would be built in hud for speedball. Nothing fancy, just a simple rectangle in your goggles that shows your teammates in relation to you. Doesn't have to show the bunkers and definately not the opposing team. Just a small rectangle to represent the average speedball field with dots, X's or O's for players.

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              • Nitroduck
                Registered User
                • Jan 2001
                • 726

                #37
                Ok....lets see.....

                Im going to post all my thoughs on what will most likely happen.


                1st major step for paintball. Speedball the movie.

                If all things go well, and it does make it to production, and movie theaters show a deacent responce, people will pour into our sport.

                What will that do for paintball?

                10% reduction in gun prices across the board...More people needing more guns resuls in lower prices.

                Average paint price = $35-$40 a case for paint.

                Regardless, I dont see paint going to $20 or so in the next 10 years because of shipping costs.....Thats a given $5/case at a minimum.

                After this......A near-universal threading system.

                We've seen 2 threadings, Cocker and Spyders, as being the dominant threadings. I hope that in the future 90% of guns will be using those 2 threadings (most are today, but I hope that even more do).

                I dont know how much more radical advances can be made in technology, I want to see more things develop for the betterment of our sport.

                Such as.....

                Lipstick cameras so you can watch people play (could be put on a volumizer or under the barrel) which would provide live feed......Which would get more people interested in our sport.

                More regognition from outside companies (pepsi, nike, ect) this is slowly happening, but I really hope more outside places start sponsoring events.....That would really help out.

                Past that....for gun advances....

                1600+ shots per 68/45 on most guns

                +/- 1 consistancy

                Low ball breakage in gun

                No bounce paint on target thats affordable
                (not everyone can afford Imperial)

                Quieter guns so you can hear more of the communication and less of the loud pops.

                Cheaper supair/ultimate airball fields....Both fields are designed to be colorful/spectator friendly....I cant wait to see typical 5mans go for $1500-$2000 in the future.

                Thats about it..
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                • J
                  Light me up
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 303

                  #38
                  A like "clip on" ACE would be pretty cool (porbably have to drill a hole in the body, but most of us can do that). Because breakage just sucks, I was playing in like 90% + humidity, breaking all the time. Mostly my POS barrel, but unless I played in a climate controlled dome, I doubt anything could fix that...

                  Unless somehow the formula was changed in the paintball istself. Something cheaper, good hardness, and is NOT affected by weather, maybe a lil' thicker.

                  AND the Z-Grip, I got my money saved up for that!
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                  • brett
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 287

                    #39
                    this is kinda off topic, but i would like to see better marketing from AGD.
                    I agree

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                    • MajorDamage
                      King of Polyester!
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 3141

                      #40
                      Paint Breakage I would say. Although I don't break alot of paint, I did break like one or two balls Saturday with my Emag.

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                      • i-luv-my-rt
                        In Pimpin Mode
                        • May 2001
                        • 884

                        #41
                        I think paint breakage should be set aside b/c there are bigger things to worry about. There are alot of factors we cannot control that cause paint breakage(weather,paint conditions).

                        I would say work on perfecting the ACE and maybe start working on the trap door feeds again. Those were awesome looking and standard emag owners could get ACE w/o buy an extreme. Those are just my thoughts.
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                        • FooTemps
                          HURRRR
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 6702

                          #42
                          Player to gun usage

                          Ergonomics, user friendly, and easily adaptable to any situation in a game; that would be my choice. I'd love to see a paintball gun that would never break a paintball again but I won't bother with that right now. Yeah, sure, it'll change your game a lot by making life easier in the heat of battle. Well, if you want it easy... why not make the whole gun better to play with?

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                          • Cha0tic
                            g0t mag?
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 1990

                            #43
                            i could go with a 7000psi tank that is the size of 9oz stubby co2 tank

                            but realistically, i would like a better way to recover from ball breakage (how about no breaks at all) and a very light gun.

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                            • magic55
                              ta314975903
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 470

                              #44
                              as far as mags go i would say chopping is the number one thing. it is a pain in the butt to be playing a game and all of a sudden chop a ball because that basically leaves you stranded cause a squeegy isn't gonna clean the porting unless its a crownpoint or ramrod.
                              also i would say something has to be done ( although i have no idea how) about the resale value of mags. it is HORRIBLE. i have never seen something with such bad resale.

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                              • zads27
                                Student of Life
                                • May 2001
                                • 565

                                #45
                                I would have to say paint breakage as well.
                                Though when properly setup, markers usually don't break paint..
                                Break a ball, and your marker won't shoot as well as it did before, unless you clean it with water or wash it.. which you can't really do on the field.

                                What was the deal with the 9bps valve or whatnot? I'm assuming that it was a low pressure valve, is that still in the works?
                                I think everyone wants a marker that does the 'industry standard' 13 bps, perhaps you could raise the 9 to 13, and sacrifice a little low pressure?
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