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  • SlartyBartFast
    The Flying Scotsman
    • Jun 2002
    • 2940

    #1

    PMI/NPS Merge, 888-Paintball to close

    www.nationalpaintball.com or www.pminetwork.com.

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    Angelo Gordon was founded in 1988 and currently has over 65 investment professionals managing approximately $10 billion in capital across multiple investment strategies. The New York-based long-term equity strategy group currently manages more than $800 million in existing and committed capital.
  • Chronobreak
    Rec Poster
    • Mar 2003
    • 5055

    #2
    dam news spreads fast

    as i said on pbn

    "the umbrella grows larger" for better or worse

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    • SR_matt
      Santa Sucks
      • Jun 2006
      • 1072

      #3
      hmmm so the question is who will manufacture marbs, premium, and evil now, pmi continue? or will procaps (or did procaps break off from nps, cant rmeember, either way who ever makes the nps stuff) take over?

      the only thing i really like that pmi still makes is paint and if that goes to crap then i will me totaly saddened

      -matt

      o ya p.s. 888 paintball, 800 paintball, and the main nps site are all the same with the same prices

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      • Dark Frost17
        Darkness...
        • Mar 2006
        • 752

        #4
        Originally posted by SR_matt
        hmmm so the question is who will manufacture marbs, premium, and evil now, pmi continue? or will procaps (or did procaps break off from nps, cant rmeember, either way who ever makes the nps stuff) take over?

        the only thing i really like that pmi still makes is paint and if that goes to crap then i will me totaly saddened

        -matt

        o ya p.s. 888 paintball, 800 paintball, and the main nps site are all the same with the same prices
        ProCaps is now on there own and doing very well it seams....
        there paint is awsome..

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        • Shane-O-Mac
          Registered User
          • Sep 2002
          • 1045

          #5
          IIRC, PMI bought RP Scherer and has been making there own paint for awhile. Thats one of the things NPS needed. Good Paint!


          Shane-O
          I have nothing good to put here...........


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          • BourneKiller
            PBReview Mod
            • Nov 2002
            • 780

            #6
            This has been in the works for years...

            It finally came through. Hmmm.. Can't say that I'm really surprised, but it'd be interesting to see how it turns out.


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            • Kevmaster
              Owners Group Div: Director
              • Oct 2001
              • 5475

              #7
              proves one thing and one thing only: to make money in paintball...you must sell paint and have a distribution network. those two things. thats all. otherwise, you take losses.

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              • paintballfiend
                I like pudding.
                • Jun 2006
                • 555

                #8
                I smell monopoly.

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                • 1stdeadeye
                  Still around????
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 8501

                  #9
                  Kee?

                  I drove by the Sewell Headquartes of NPS, now it says Kee?

                  Where did Kee enter the picture?

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                  • Chronobreak
                    Rec Poster
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5055

                    #10
                    talk about necro post

                    Kee is just NPS's new name the name for both NPS and PMI together

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                    • halB
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 953

                      #11
                      Awesome. Can anyone tell me how when we had fewer players we had more companies, but now that our sport is growing we have fewer and fewer companies?


                      Lack of competition. This will surely be a good thing.

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                      • michbich
                        machinist-biochemist
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 849

                        #12
                        Originally posted by halB
                        Awesome. Can anyone tell me how when we had fewer players we had more companies, but now that our sport is growing we have fewer and fewer companies?


                        Lack of competition. This will surely be a good thing.
                        Is the sport actualy growing?

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                        • SR_matt
                          Santa Sucks
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1072

                          #13
                          Originally posted by halB
                          Awesome. Can anyone tell me how when we had fewer players we had more companies, but now that our sport is growing we have fewer and fewer companies?


                          Lack of competition. This will surely be a good thing.
                          look at computers, once they took off there were fewer and fewer companies for a while, then the .com boom and it took back off

                          -matt

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                          • athomas
                            Of course it works-its AGD
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8039

                            #14
                            Fewer, but bigger companies. The large companies can create more inexpensive merchandise. Plus, the larger companies can crush smaller companies in the event of a price war. Eventually, you only have a couple of companies left and less product options. Look at Microsoft. Is there really any other option for operating systems in a PC. No. They just overpowered all potential operating systems in the market place until they were the only ones left. Yes, you could argue that the Mac is a viable system, but it runs on a completely different set of hardware. Its like comparing paintball and airsoft.

                            Right now, the big paintball companies are grabbing market share, becoming the defacto standard.
                            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                            • SR_matt
                              Santa Sucks
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1072

                              #15
                              Originally posted by athomas
                              Fewer, but bigger companies. The large companies can create more inexpensive merchandise. Plus, the larger companies can crush smaller companies in the event of a price war. Eventually, you only have a couple of companies left and less product options. Look at Microsoft. Is there really any other option for operating systems in a PC. No. They just overpowered all potential operating systems in the market place until they were the only ones left. Yes, you could argue that the Mac is a viable system, but it runs on a completely different set of hardware. Its like comparing paintball and airsoft.

                              Right now, the big paintball companies are grabbing market share, becoming the defacto standard.
                              well the pc mac thing isnt a great comparison cause there is a huge push going now to get mac available on other hardware and the fact that apple is pushing its software towards pcs too its kind of paying microsoft back. and actually now the processors are all made by intel so its not to differant if at all

                              but any way. its just going through a cycle in a few years after paintball picks back up a lot more of the small little companies will spring back up once some one develops a new marker system and refuses to get bought out

                              -matt

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