Buying first gun (Tac One), lots of questions.

[Sammy Sandbag]

First off let me begin my apologizing for my ignorance up front. I've played paintball on and off for a number of years, but have finally decided to really get into it. I've always either rented or borrowed guns, so never really had a need to deal with the different options/features/setups.

That said, I started researching within the last week or so, and have become really impressed with the AGD Tac One. I'm not interested in speed-ball, and when my buddies and I play it's in a scenerio/woodsball (I suppose that's the proper term) type of action.

So, the questions are:

1. What is needed to complete the marker? (air fittings/tanks/regulators/etc...) And with that: What is recommended.

2. I've seen several different layouts in regards to the hoses. Some with just a single hose bending 180* from the gun to tank, others with two hoses; one from the gun, then to the foregrip, then out the bottom to the tank. I like the setup where it runs through the grip, but not sure where those parts are available or how it's setup. The AGD online store lists a hose/air adapter pack, but doesn't provide any further info on it.

3. Centerfeed/Warp Left/Warp Right? I'm not too interested in the Warp feeder itself, but the Warp mainbody's potential for a Q-Loader is intriguing. Hoppers annoy me, and I rarely burn through that many balls, so I was think the Q would be ideal. I'm just not to sure about which main body to go with. I was thinking Warp-Left (I'm right handed if that helps.)

4. ULE Trigger? Listed as an option, but I'm not clear on it's purpose. I assume it's just a lighter trigger pull. I'd also assume it's not all that necessary for my style of play, but any input is appreciated.

5. Finally (I'm sure they'll be more later) where's the best place to buy? I noticed a few online dealers here besides AGD. Do any of these offer package deals; specifically with the gun setup and ready to go.


Sorry for the long-winded first post, but I like to ensure I do things right the first time. And once again; I'm new-ish to the sport, so please bear with me (read: I don't know all the acronyms being thrown around here just yet.)

Thanks,
Sammy

[Tunaman]

Just email me at [email protected] I'll tell you everything you need to know about these. I have everything you need for a great price. Thanks!

[Sammy Sandbag]

Just email me at [email protected] I'll tell you everything you need to know about these. I have everything you need for a great price. Thanks!

Tunaman,

Thanks for the reply, email sent. I've checked out your site (among others) and at this point I'm trying to narrow down what all I need and how it should be set up. Any input is appreciated.

[mclaggan123]

sammy where do you play at. i live in kingsland ga so im not far from ya. ive played at lcp and my home field is gtfpaintball. i have a tacone set up the way you describe how you would like yours set up. tuna is the shiznit so hes a good guy to listen too. if i can help yea pm me. good luck and good choice on the tacone.

[Chronobreak]

tunamart.com
themagsmith.com
store.airgun.com

tuna is GREAT
Rogue/tms is OK

TMS also has his own special tac one(limited few) in the dealers section here last i looked

the dealers should send or shouldnt have a problem sending a gun with air/fittings and hoses etc included or for a small fee

i would get a vert feed, should you decided to go warp/tac then you can get a no rise, with the side feeds..should your qloader or w/e malfunction your SOL

ult=im not a fan..some people are..just depends on how you like the feel of the trigger, soft or hard and crispier

welcome to AO

[Sammy Sandbag]

sammy where do you play at. i live in kingsland ga so im not far from ya. ive played at lcp and my home field is gtfpaintball.

Right now just some various places, no official fields. I'm in the military, and we have some areas on post that work well.

i have a tacone set up the way you describe how you would like yours set up.

Any photos? Since I'm not to wise when it comes to the terminology, it helps if I can point and say "yeah, just like that."

TMS also has his own special tac one(limited few) in the dealers section here last i looked

I believe I saw it, the mini-Tac right? Definately a sweet setup, but not really necessary for my needs (the standard Tac body would work just fine.) I do like the shrink wraped hoses, just like it better if it didn't have that single loop.

i would get a vert feed, should you decided to go warp/tac then you can get a no rise, with the side feeds..should your qloader or w/e malfunction your SOL

Good point, but that would defeat the purpose of clearing off the top for a clean sight picture.

Thanks guys.

[txaggie08]

The hose layout you want is simple enough. You need to get a vertical adapter(its a bolt on peace) and a gas through foregip. Your run a hose from the valve to the vert adapter, then from the gas through to the tank.


this is maddboy32's gun, i beleive he has exactly what you wanted.(thats an e-frame btw(a hyperframe specificaly))

An HPA tank is required, xvalves do not run on CO2.

ULT will get trigger pull weight down to next to nothing. A good alternative would be to think about Pneu-magging the gun.

You dont want, nor is it advisable to use, a reg. The gun itself has an EXTREMELY consistant regulator built in(the back half of the valve) and putting another reg in is just starving the gun down. The only time i would run a secondary on a mag is a stab if i was runnign CO2 in a classic valve.

[Sammy Sandbag]

this is maddboy32's gun, i beleive he has exactly what you wanted.(thats an e-frame btw(a hyperframe specificaly))

Ah yes, that's what I was talking about. Although I was considering running the Q-loader mounted directly to the side of the Warp-L, and facing forward, parallel to the barrel. With it out to the front that far mounted underneath, I think it would severely limits where you can put your barrel (firing out of tight windows, etc.)

An HPA tank is required, xvalves do not run on CO2.

Check. That's a whole 'nother issue (size/pressure/brand/etc), then how to mount it. I'm used to playing with 20oz CO2, so I don't know what kind of "drop" (is that correct) works best.

Thanks for the continued help guys.

[$tevo]

The size of the tank is all preference, i like to use 68cu 4500psi tanks, crossfire makes a good HP preset.

As for drops, thats also preference, I like the Check It Unimounts.

With AGD markers, just make sure you get a high pressure tank, i believe the optimum pressure is 900? mine works fine with 850

[Warwitch]

[QUOTE=Sammy Sandbag] Ah yes, that's what I was talking about. Although I was considering running the Q-loader mounted directly to the side of the Warp-L, and facing forward, parallel to the barrel. With it out to the front that far mounted underneath, I think it would severely limits where you can put your barrel (firing out of tight windows, etc.)
[QUOTE]


Wouldnt that setup would give the marker a much larger profile when shooting around the left side of bunkers though? I like the warp body/q-loader setup, Im going with something like that as well. Though Id like to come up with a way to mount it behind the marker where a stock would go (if that makes sense.) Might even make it easier to change the pods.

[SR_matt]

you just need either macro fittings and the macro or ss line(s) and the fittings. i suggest ss with shrink wrap around them.

First off let me begin my apologizing for my ignorance up front. I've played paintball on and off for a number of years, but have finally decided to really get into it. I've always either rented or borrowed guns, so never really had a need to deal with the different options/features/setups.

That said, I started researching within the last week or so, and have become really impressed with the AGD Tac One. I'm not interested in speed-ball, and when my buddies and I play it's in a scenerio/woodsball (I suppose that's the proper term) type of action.

So, the questions are:

1. What is needed to complete the marker? (air fittings/tanks/regulators/etc...) And with that: What is recommended.
you just need either macro fittings and the macro or ss line(s) and the fittings. i suggest ss with shrink wrap around them.

2. I've seen several different layouts in regards to the hoses. Some with just a single hose bending 180* from the gun to tank, others with two hoses; one from the gun, then to the foregrip, then out the bottom to the tank. I like the setup where it runs through the grip, but not sure where those parts are available or how it's setup. The AGD online store lists a hose/air adapter pack, but doesn't provide any further info on it.

The tac 1 has a gas through grip that you can use the 1 or 2 lines

3. Centerfeed/Warp Left/Warp Right? I'm not too interested in the Warp feeder itself, but the Warp mainbody's potential for a Q-Loader is intriguing. Hoppers annoy me, and I rarely burn through that many balls, so I was think the Q would be ideal. I'm just not to sure about which main body to go with. I was thinking Warp-Left (I'm right handed if that helps.)

well i dont like warped bodies personaly, you can still use a q loader pretty easily with a vert feed, but if you know you dont want to run a normal hopper ever go for it... but unless youve seen and use a q loader before be warned it takes a little pratice to get every thing runnign smoothly (and some paints, brittle and low grade paint that is semi out of roung, dont feed well)

4. ULE Trigger? Listed as an option, but I'm not clear on it's purpose. I assume it's just a lighter trigger pull. I'd also assume it's not all that necessary for my style of play, but any input is appreciated.

you want it, the ult kit make the pull lighter (lighter than a nice mech cocker but still heavier than an electro) it is also easy to set it up to be shorter or longer of a pull (you can even posiably get bounce out of the trigger with the kit without having to pump it higher psi)

5. Finally (I'm sure they'll be more later) where's the best place to buy? I noticed a few online dealers here besides AGD. Do any of these offer package deals; specifically with the gun setup and ready to go.

go through agd if you have parts from other companies youd rather have then either send them in to agd to get them installed or if its a piece you can put on later jsut get them to make the gun with out the piece (like a foregrip for example). i bought stuff from agd, got it annoed , then sent it back and they assembled it and tuned it all up liek any other gun they make.

Sorry for the long-winded first post, but I like to ensure I do things right the first time. And once again; I'm new-ish to the sport, so please bear with me (read: I don't know all the acronyms being thrown around here just yet.)

Thanks,
Sammy

just make sure you do get the level 10 kit in the vavle (i do think there is an option to not get it but its a must IMHO). the tuning of it as it breaks in at first can seem a pain but once you do it once you realize how quick and easy it really is.

-matt

[AGD-OfficeGal]

you just need either macro fittings and the macro or ss line(s) and the fittings. i suggest ss with shrink wrap around them.

just make sure you do get the level 10 kit in the vavle (i do think there is an option to not get it but its a must IMHO). the tuning of it as it breaks in at first can seem a pain but once you do it once you realize how quick and easy it really is.

-matt

The Level 10 comes standard with every gun that has an X-Valve, including the Tac One.

Marcia
AGD-USA

[SR_matt]

o alright i stand corrected (i would have sworn at one point there was an option to get a lvl 7 in the xvalves)

-matt

[Sammy Sandbag]

Wouldnt that setup would give the marker a much larger profile when shooting around the left side of bunkers though? I like the warp body/q-loader setup, Im going with something like that as well. Though Id like to come up with a way to mount it behind the marker where a stock would go (if that makes sense.) Might even make it easier to change the pods.

I would think a Q on the left would still be much better than a normal hopper on top or the Warp and hopper on the left or right. Yeah, the lowest profile would be behind the gun, like as a stock. That'd be somewhat harder to do, with a longer hose, but would really lower your silhoutte. I saw a photo on here with something similar. I just can't decide if it would be better to go left or right warp. Left might be easier to reload, and with give a minimal profile around a corner. Right would give me a clearer line of sight down the left side of the barrel (but I'm not sure it'd be necessary since the top is now cleared.)

you just need either macro fittings and the macro or ss line(s) and the fittings. i suggest ss with shrink wrap around them.

Yeah, I was looking at making it as tactical as possible: black fittings, black shrink wrap, etc.

The tac 1 has a gas through grip that you can use the 1 or 2 lines

Really? Seems like some places I read you'll need an extra part. That'd be good if the original grip worked, I like the looks of it.

Thanks again guys.

[SR_matt]

last i saw it has the vert asa piece so you can do the 2 lines, my friends tac one that was one of the originals has it, i dont think they have changed that part since they started making them.

-matt