Buying first gun (Tac One), lots of questions.

[Sammy Sandbag]

last i saw it has the vert asa piece so you can do the 2 lines, my friends tac one that was one of the originals has it, i dont think they have changed that part since they started making them.

-matt

Cool, that's good to know.

Now for the tank. I've only used CO2, so I'm not all too familar with HPA. I've read on here that a regulator is already built into these markers, but I assume that the pressure must be regulated down at the tank (I think I've read 850 psi.) Size seems to be a personnal opinion, but what is recommended?

I see some that appear to have just a standard tank attachment (duck bill I believe) similar to a CO2 tank attachment. Others have a knob (On/Off??) and even some with an additional gauge. I'm clueless when it comes to this, so any input is welcome.

Thanks again guys.

[SR_matt]

on an x-valve you need to run hpa. all hpa tanks used for the sport have a reg built it (or have a set up to be ran through a designated reg one of the older tanks had the tank that screwed into the reg a special way but thats the execption to the rule) all tanks regulate the air down 2 times on the tanks. from 4500/3000 to 1800ish to the out put of 450ish or 850ish (on presets). you need at least 800 psi to really get the the vavle to cycle well with out adjusting stuff much (and since its your first mag probably the best idea would be to not have to play around with tuning ot that extent).

i suggest either corssfire or gurerilla (my personal favorite) 4500 psi tank high psi out put.

to figure out how many shots will come from the tank multiple the cubic inch of the tank by 15 for a 4500 fill and 10 for a 3k fill. i like a 45/45 screwed into my check-it unimount on/off.

persoanly i like on/offs much more than just duckbills, its much better on the tank orings and is easier to get the tank on and off.

hope this helps
-matt

[Sammy Sandbag]

hope this helps
-matt

It sure does. Is this what you are talking about: http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/1746/

I assume the tank just screws in like normal.

[Thanna]

Were you thinking bout having the tank on marker or running a remote line? Also if you get an ASA, note that some have a degassing feature when you turn it off. Others do not. I personally like the ones with the feature.

[Sammy Sandbag]

Were you thinking bout having the tank on marker or running a remote line?

On the marker, straight off the end of the grip.

[Thanna]

If you do decide to go with the Qloader, don't forget to get the CMS(CustomMountSystem) kit. That lets you mount it almost anywhere you want... and if it doesn't you can probably modify it so that you can. I'm in the process of figuring out how to mount the Qloader on the SpecOps T2W stock for a smaller profile. Oh and dont forget to look at the ProTeamProduct Warp adaptor. It is a lil bit smaller than the AGD plastic one.

[SR_matt]

On the marker, straight off the end of the grip.

yep, those are slightly older versions but they work identicaly. anything like that will work fine (you might want one that has 2 air ports so you dont have to worry about flipping it over and stuff.

i liek my uni mount, if you unscrew the top almost all the way (substantialy farther than jstu turning off the air) you can use it to bleed the line out so you can just pull the tank off and not have to worry about shooting out the air in the line still
-matt

[Sammy Sandbag]

Oh and dont forget to look at the ProTeamProduct Warp adaptor. It is a lil bit smaller than the AGD plastic one.

Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to look into that. I was actually trying to figure out if it would be possible to attach the Q loader directly to the feed, with no hose between the two (hope that makes sense.)

yep, those are slightly older versions but they work identicaly. anything like that will work fine (you might want one that has 2 air ports so you dont have to worry about flipping it over and stuff.

I think I found what you are talking about: http://paintballgateway.com/chitunse.html I'm definately interested in those.

Now I just need to finalize what I want and get it.

[SR_matt]

ya uni mounts are nice, they are pretty adaptable and can be adjusted to a lot of different posistions

-matt

[Sammy Sandbag]

Hey Matt, thanks for the help. I was looking at the Guerilla Air tanks, and this is what looked like the most appropriate setup: http://guerrillaair1.chainreactionwe...e3b4e9ce286786

Any input?

[Tao]

First off let me begin my apologizing for my ignorance up front. I've played paintball on and off for a number of years, but have finally decided to really get into it. I've always either rented or borrowed guns, so never really had a need to deal with the different options/features/setups.

That said, I started researching within the last week or so, and have become really impressed with the AGD Tac One. I'm not interested in speed-ball, and when my buddies and I play it's in a scenerio/woodsball (I suppose that's the proper term) type of action.

So, the questions are:

1. What is needed to complete the marker? (air fittings/tanks/regulators/etc...) And with that: What is recommended.

2. I've seen several different layouts in regards to the hoses. Some with just a single hose bending 180* from the gun to tank, others with two hoses; one from the gun, then to the foregrip, then out the bottom to the tank. I like the setup where it runs through the grip, but not sure where those parts are available or how it's setup. The AGD online store lists a hose/air adapter pack, but doesn't provide any further info on it.

3. Centerfeed/Warp Left/Warp Right? I'm not too interested in the Warp feeder itself, but the Warp mainbody's potential for a Q-Loader is intriguing. Hoppers annoy me, and I rarely burn through that many balls, so I was think the Q would be ideal. I'm just not to sure about which main body to go with. I was thinking Warp-Left (I'm right handed if that helps.)

4. ULE Trigger? Listed as an option, but I'm not clear on it's purpose. I assume it's just a lighter trigger pull. I'd also assume it's not all that necessary for my style of play, but any input is appreciated.

5. Finally (I'm sure they'll be more later) where's the best place to buy? I noticed a few online dealers here besides AGD. Do any of these offer package deals; specifically with the gun setup and ready to go.


Sorry for the long-winded first post, but I like to ensure I do things right the first time. And once again; I'm new-ish to the sport, so please bear with me (read: I don't know all the acronyms being thrown around here just yet.)

Thanks,
Sammy

Well its not really that long winded....
For main body you are correct (basically you pick the feed port on the opposite side of what "handed" you are). If you don't go throughthat much paint then you probably won't want the ULE trigger. The triger takes practice to use since you can short stroke the gun easier. It basically gives an electronic like triger.

One thing you may want to consider getting is a y grip. It looks weird but it should be more comfortable to hold IF you hold your gun tight to your head (I.E. not very good if you put a but stock on the end of the gun).

As for air fittings it depends what you already have for air fittings. You will need a drop forward or other tank mount for the bottom of the gun, two 90degree fittings and a length of hose (all but a drop forward you can buy from AGD).

[Sammy Sandbag]

Got another one: I've seen a couple variations with the TAC ONE in "official" photos. I was browsing through the 2007 Buyers Guide of APG and in one pict the TAC had a black trigger, in another it was silver. One photo had a different barrel than the others. The foregrip was also longer in some of the photos. I haven't seen any options listed anywhere, and I was just wondering what the deal was.

FWIW, I'm looking for as tactical as a marker as possible (ie all flat black)

[SR_matt]

well thats the magic of AGD if you have a preferance for anything on the gun, call them and tell them waht you want, they will assemble it that way just for you

-matt

[Sammy Sandbag]

Alright fellas, I think I'm settled on at least what configuration Tac One I would like. I decided against the warp body in the event I choose not to run a Q. Yes it'll reduce my over the gun visibility and increase my sillouette, but I'll live with it.


So now the questions are:

1. Any further recommendations on Air Tanks/Regs? So far the Guerrilla Air has been the only one mentioned. It looks like a good piece, but I'm just looking for further input be for a make an order.

2. Suggestions on a hopper? From what I've looked at, I like the look of the Ricochet AK, but any advice is welcome. I would like something that isn't huge and bulky. I don't need a super fast feed rate either.

Thanks in advance as always.

[SR_matt]

i have used corssfires, gurellia airs, and i have used for a shot game an air america.

all 3 have a different feel with the ult. the gurellia seems to be soft and fast in recharging while teh corssy seems to be a little harder almsot but slow if that makes any sence. each tank gives a different feel becasue of the recharge rate and the psi out put. also as the tank psi in side goes down the trigger will not reset as hard and fast. i can walk my trigger very fast (seems electro almost) when i have a full tank (gurellia air) but once it gets down to 2k or below i strat to have to work much harder to walk teh trigger and seem to get more slop and short strokes slightly and i just cant get the rate as high really. but unless you want to be able to shoot very fast and try to tune every drop out of your ult this is not a big thing.

if you want a screw in system the gurellia air is one of the best. for an adjustable one im not to up on those but the flat line was designed for the mag.

hoppers
i have used pretty much every major type of hopper on the market except the eggs (i have heard and see so many problems with them i refuse to touch one)

ak hoppers
-you can get some balls to deflect on them... but half the time they deflect into you
-the little activator seems to have issues getting messed up and not activating properly.

revies
-if you get a soft shelled AKA pre brass eagle you will be fine
-only problem is that the feed rate is some what low

halo/reloader b
-very fast
-very consistant on feeding
-the hardest to clean out
-the most tempermental of all electro hoppers due to electronics and motors

qloader
-very very fast
-very consistant
-dont you dare try to use any low grade paint
-takes a while to get used to
-takes a long time to load

as long as you are not going to try to shoot fast the revy will give you great preformance but if you dont get a soft shelled revy you will be very dissapointed.

-matt