AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
this is one can of worms that I don't want to open again in an open forum. So a search, you'll find hundreds, if not thousands of posts regarding that topic over the past couple of years.
so you are saying they are selling all there guns and that is it? like no more in production? or just some gun willl go out of production? what i am saying if once all the emags, tac one, classic, rt, mini mags are gone they are gone for good?
They stopped producing the emag. As for the other mags, ULE and TACs, those are still available. I think the other bodies are no longer made either. I'm not sure about how many other parts they still actively produce. I know Tom said once that if they stopped selling guns, they can stay in business just selling parts and giving support.
I am thinking about a emag, but the only turn off is tyhe price. i have noticed that emags have been on the market for about four or five years.the prices are still outrageous. on the airgun websight a emag cost one thousand dollars and tunamart it is 850.00 which is a bit better but for a market that has been on the market for such a long time i think that is a steep price. the minimag has decreased in price, so has the classics and the rts,, which is a great thing and these markets are more affordable. i think if agd lowers the price on the emag to like 600 -700 they will sell way more ,after all there is now better quality that agd. if anyone know where i can get a brand new emag that is cheaper that 1000-850 let me know also if there is anyone who know if or when i price drop will happend for the emags let me know, as soon as they drop in prices i am all over it,.
thanks in advanced
ps not to mention the flatline reg that is additional 175.00
all comment are welcome
new minimags and emags are rip offs IMHO. you could find way better used emags than new ones w/ custom parts and annos etc... BTW new minimags aren't great looking at all. Personally I hate the regulator-part-of-the-valve design w/o orings, compared to a ReTro. It's got no good stock parts besides the valve IMHO. It's way overpriced, It's rugged, it's ugly, but it get's the job done. But if your looking for a deal, go for the tac one. it's got xvalve, lvl10, j and j, tac bodykit, vert feed, cocker threads, intellie, dye grips, foregrip, basically everything you need from an automag. if you want an emag I reccomend buying a used one. I have had more success buying used stuff from honest seller like MANN, dj89, etc, than buying new stufff. better prices and deals. so buy used!
n the airgun websight a emag cost one thousand dollars and tunamart it is 850.00 which is a bit better but for a market that has been on the market for such a long time i think that is a steep price.
your in the "its better if the changed the milling and trigger and call it th new hot gun for 07 mindset."
the emag is just as fast, just as good of gun as the day it came out. The dont need new models everyyear to justify the price tag.
You have an RT pro.... Pick up a set of Emag lowers and an Emag on/off assembly and you can have an EMAG will all the parts you currently have for 400 or less depending on the deal you find.
Yeah, Whens is AGD going to go the route WDP did and take all the High end Brit made stuff and pawn it out to China? So they can charge $1300 for the same marker?
I was wondering if anyone would mention Emag lowers... Looks like someone did. I had a tac-one and picked up lowers for $300. Combining the two gave me an Etac. You should look into it. Lowers come up on ebay from time to time.
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. -James Morrow :headbang:
The mag is a classic design, made so it doesn't have to be re-made from year to year. Other companies keep shaving inches and metal off their guns; AGD has had one of the most compact designs since 1991. Other companies added regs, AGD guns had them to begin with.
Other companies make their guns faster while AGD guns were capable of 16+ cps in an era where other guns couldn't do half of that. A select few other companies have taken this approach, like Palmer's with their Typhoons or CCI with the Phantom. Some guns just don't need to be changed.
Part of the reason AGD guns haven't changed all that much is because Tom intended them to be backwards compatible so that users could keep their gun and upgrade it rather than shelling out for the latest design just to replace it with each new year (i.e. DM3, 4, 5, 6, 7...). The AutoMag was designed with the user in mind, moreso than making money. How effective is this? I can take Classic valve built in 1994, put on a set of Emag lowers and shoot the 15 bps limit just like every other gun on the market. Hell, Smart Parts claims to have invented electronics, but do you think a Shoebox Shocker can do 15 bps? Can I put a bolt from a 98 STO in a modern Black Magic? Can I clean an Angel with a hose, leave it aired up for 3 months, and still expect it to work?
It all depends on what you want out of your gun. Some have to have a featherweight gun-of-the minute. Some like to know they've invested in quality--because quality always shoots straight.
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