low-pressure

[mag]

is there anyway at all or anything agd can do to mmags low pressure? this would be awsome if its possible

[Muzikman]

The operating preassure of a mag is already pretty low.

[FeelTheRT]

not with a Mag you can't. Most guns have valves that are opened by a hammer hitting it. Since all the Automag really is is just one reg... you can't do much unless you make the air chamber larger. But that's not the correct way of doing LP and will make the gun an even more gas hog.

[LaW]

Actually somewhere it said the mag was one of the lowest operating pressured guns because the last amount of air is like 60psi or something? :)

[covadsucks]

"AGD uses the precise contour of the power tube tip to release air in a controlled manner behind the ball to limit peak pressures to around 60-80 psi.." AGD -from a Historical Posting. Gotta love the Forum.

[LaW]

Thanks for posting that, it was exactly what i was looking for :)

[sniper1rfa]

you could technically go as low as something like 25 psi (how much it takes to get the ball to 300 fps) ala lunacy.

[magic55]

i think he means low pressure like on a freeflow or something where it will not chop a ball cause it just operates so low. i don't know what taht 60 psi thing is but my mag must not have that cause i chopped all the time.

[LaW]

chopping is not reliant on pressure... a low pressure gun will not really be any easier on a paintball then lets say some higher pressure guns.

[magic55]

i disagree. my matrix opperates at about 80psi so it is a low pressure gun and it doesn't ever chop even when i outshoot the hopper. my rtpro isn't a low pressure gun and it is constantly chopping if the hopper doesn't keep up with it or if the ball just isn't in the chamber all the way . the matrix doesn't chop because the low pressure that the bolt opperates at keeps it from blowing right through the ball and instead bounces off of it. the mag will just slice right through the ball.

[FooTemps]

um... one problem with that, the blow forward design of a mag will always chop the ball... How could the bolt bounce off the ball? Blowbacks can do this because the don't go far enough across the breach! The blow forward goes all the way across...

[LaW]

Originally posted by magic55
i disagree. my matrix opperates at about 80psi so it is a low pressure gun and it doesn't ever chop even when i outshoot the hopper. my rtpro isn't a low pressure gun and it is constantly chopping if the hopper doesn't keep up with it or if the ball just isn't in the chamber all the way . the matrix doesn't chop because the low pressure that the bolt opperates at keeps it from blowing right through the ball and instead bounces off of it. the mag will just slice right through the ball.

The hopper not keeping up and the ball not getting into the chamber enough has nothing to do with the operating pressure of the marker. Your crazy

[unseenunheard]

i always looked at chopping as sort of a hopper issue.
lower presure might make it easier on brittle paint, i'm sure their is a way to lower the pressure. i would think by enlarging the air chamber you should lower the pressure by a lil' bit but i doubt it would be a significant amount. although i am probably wrong

[LaW]

Smart parts tried this already lowering it by like 40 psi and actually hurting performance. As put before the air distributed out the bolt is only 60psi... that's pretty low guys... the actual valve at start regulates it at 375 or whatever but what comes out is not that much. I don't think it's making a difference (insignificant at that) His chopping is a hopper issue. of course your going to break paint if only half of it is in the breech..... i'm sorry it's just not a solid argument

[unseenunheard]

i keep seeing people post that the mag regulates the pressure in the valve down to 375 in the chamber before firing but my minimag was at 525psi shooting 280fps, i gutted the internal reg and replaced with an external regulator with a gauge, this is how i know it used 525psi.
**added on edit** i assume smart parts tried it with a classic valve and this is why they got shootdown, but what if someone did it with a retro valve. i could live with having shootdown at say 18-20bps, and be gentler on paint. just a thought