Questions for the marker whores/sellers

[punkncat]

In a nut shell , any marker that hasn't been replaced by newer and better versions.

I'd pull mags out of there tho , $800 retail on a new Emag and your lucky to turn it around the same day for 5.

I would have to say that Mags fare far better than AKA in that list. At least with a mag you can part it and return a good bit of your original investment.
That is one marker that you can buy used and expect to get what you payed down the road. At least for now.

[Farnja]

In a nut shell , any marker that hasn't been replaced by newer and better versions.

I'd pull mags out of there tho , $800 retail on a new Emag and your lucky to turn it around the same day for 5.

But if you buy an Emag used for 500 you could probably sell it for 500 in a year...

[hmudd13]

I think some of the price drop on electro markers is due to the fact that a lot of people (first time E buyers) don't understand the whole board concept.
And are worried about buying a used and possibly fudged marker.
New, with warranty might look attractive over $400 without.

Although I did get a hardly used Evil Pimp(worth $800 new) for $300.
Seller said it didn't work and didn't know why.

2 new ball detents - $1
Bolt pin replaced properly in bolt - $0

Experience - priceless

[GT]

Why would you spend, what is it?, $400 on that upgrade when you can go buy one already done for $300? Or if you look around find an A4 or even a G7 for the 350-450 range?

You buy an lcd for 175, sell the battery and charger for around 75-100. Pred is 300, plus I believe you receive a warrenty with it. One of my rules is to not buy "custom" guns. It will never make "buisness" sense to put that kind of money into mods without keeping the gun for a long time. Besides you need to not pay retail, I think the board is only 150, then do the install yourself

IF he were to be discovered selling below, then he risks loosing the ability to deal with one of the only major vendors left.
Why would any buisinessman with half a brain put themselves in that position over a few customers?

No, the buisness man with half a brain stays in buisness. How are you supposed to be truly compatitve with map pricing? Service doesnt count for a dam thing anymore thus e-retailings bomb in sales. Price is key for survival for a lot of places right now. If NPS pulled dealers for what they know is going on they would not have anyone to buy thier products.

And its not just a couple of guys. Check pbn, do you think all of those dealers are selling at MAP, :rofl:

Mags
AKA
Palmers
Sheridans
CCI (mostly)

Mag resale is terrible, unless you part out. AKAs are turning into the next angel. If you really want to decrease depreciation then buy something that is a niche item. SFL mags, chord bodies, revenge, evos, any kind of pump....

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I would have to say that Mags fare far better than AKA in that list. At least with a mag you can part it and return a good bit of your original investment.
That is one marker that you can buy used and expect to get what you payed down the road. At least for now.

Bought an 04 Unmilled Viking with Tadao for $425 in November of 2005. In September of 2006 I sold the same gun for $425.

If you guy AKA markers used, then you will not have to worry about much depreciation.

This market thrives off of young adults, ranging from 14 to mid-20's, who find anything new is worth a few hundred dollars. If that means a new ano or milling scheme, they will pay for it. They have equipment and desperately want something new in a very short amount of time. Price it low to get the wanted equipment quickly. Also, respect from possessions on forums is greatly desired by this group as well.

[RRfireblade]

But if you buy an Emag used for 500 you could probably sell it for 500 in a year...

That's true of pretty much any current marker , the question was pertaining to resale of New.

[Samurai-joker]

I think personally thier is one reason

1. supply and demand.

prices high/quanity low

The market was unsaturated at the time, and there were more buyers than sellers

now you can get ump-teen differant types of shockers, dm's, eggo's, etc.....

more quanity, more companies competeing agianst each other. gotta compete some way.

[jenarelJAM]

I'd pull mags out of there tho , $800 retail on a new Emag and your lucky to turn it around the same day for 5.

New mags from AGD come with ULE lowers, xvalve, all the goodies. I could sell mine for $500 pretty quick if I wanted to I believe, but I'm in no hurry, and am looking for a bit more. Some of the older Emags go for sub-$500, but from AGD, you get the higher-end emag. And before someone comes back and says that AGD sells them for $999 on their site, remember that you've got to watch the sales...
And I was young back then, wanted a new marker for my first... Now I'm a bit smarter. Just a bit.

[RRfireblade]

New mags from AGD come with ULE lowers, xvalve, all the goodies. I could sell mine for $500 pretty quick if I wanted to I believe, but I'm in no hurry, and am looking for a bit more. Some of the older Emags go for sub-$500, but from AGD, you get the higher-end emag. And before someone comes back and says that AGD sells them for $999 on their site, remember that you've got to watch the sales...
And I was young back then, wanted a new marker for my first... Now I'm a bit smarter. Just a bit.

True but doesn't change my point.

Up to their full release , people could and were buying DM6s , PM6s and the like for full retail and turning them right around for full retail and occasionally a tad more due to the demand and availability. That's a common practice , same is true of people liquidating marker sponserships on certain markers. Like I said , we are talking about new marker resales. Go buy a new Emag for around 800 or so (average new retail) and put it back up for sale NIB and your going to lose $2-300 right off the top. Only a handful of markers where that's not the case , most of Big Boy list for example.

Not a slam on any of them just the truth.

[Ydna]

One thing I've definitely noticed as of late is that the scenario markers don't loose their resale...nearly not at all actually. For isntance go to ebay and see how many SP8s there are available, or TAC8 / tiberius pistols. I was in the market for both of those recently and came to the realization that the majority of people that buy them....keep them.

Interesting fodder for today's speedball gunwhore vs. scenario player contrasts...

[punkncat]

One thing I've definitely noticed as of late is that the scenario markers don't loose their resale...nearly not at all actually. For isntance go to ebay and see how many SP8s there are available, or TAC8 / tiberius pistols. I was in the market for both of those recently and came to the realization that the majority of people that buy them....keep them.

Interesting fodder for today's speedball gunwhore vs. scenario player contrasts...

I have to agree with you there.

[jenarelJAM]

True but doesn't change my point.

Up to their full release , people could and were buying DM6s , PM6s and the like for full retail and turning them right around for full retail and occasionally a tad more due to the demand and availability. That's a common practice , same is true of people liquidating marker sponserships on certain markers. Like I said , we are talking about new marker resales. Go buy a new Emag for around 800 or so (average new retail) and put it back up for sale NIB and your going to lose $2-300 right off the top. Only a handful of markers where that's not the case , most of Big Boy list for example.

Not a slam on any of them just the truth.

I didn't mean to sound like I was refuting your point. As soon as I bought the gun, it dropped $200 in price. I just thought $300 was a bit much, and thought I'd say so.

[jfreak]

As for speedball gunwhores vs scenario players, I think you are going to see the same thing happen. Scenario specific equipment offerings have really taken off the past year. Once the market saturates and the demand is met, used resale will drop way off on this stuff as well.

[PsychoBaller]

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In all the years of playing paintall, the markers that have held up their Re-Sale value the best have been Palmer's stuff.

Markers are hand-built on a one by one basis; very sturdy and dependable. Also, as they are hand-built, they are usually custom orders that take some time. Thus, they are not produced as major factory runs... but kept in small amts.






-baller