ICE Epic marker

[wjr]

I saw that guns site a few months ago... they'resupposedly coming out with an electro version of the epic.

I seem to remember hearing this rumor a long time ago, so I'm just guessing that it's not going to happen.

Mabye like the ICE equivalent of the DW hAir.

[biojuggernaut]

I seem to remember hearing this rumor a long time ago, so I'm just guessing that it's not going to happen.

Mabye like the ICE equivalent of the DW hAir.

I own one. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1920962

The gun is extremely small. In fact my set up(s) weight under 5 pounds with paint. Very nice, somewhat loud when a ball isnt in the breach. Although the state no kick, there is a small amount from the air, and the ball leaving the ball. Shoots amazing and is INCREDABLLY small. The same size as an invert mini. The feedneck is a tad high, and the trap door works incredable. It shoots like an omen, only instead of pushing the ball past the feedneck, it closes the feedneck. The trap door pushed the ball into the barrel for dead on accuracy. It blows my tac one out of the water. The only problem is Jim sometimes goes on vacation from time to time, and doesnt respond to emails quickly (3-4 days time). He is working on new ups for the epic and I cant wait to recieve them (he gives them out free to anyone who has purcahsed the epic within that last year).

[y0da900]

I never liked the little finger on the bottom of the trap door that pushes the ball into the barrel, seems to defeat part of the purpose of no bolt if you still have a piece of plastic pushing the paint around.

[biojuggernaut]

I never liked the little finger on the bottom of the trap door that pushes the ball into the barrel, seems to defeat part of the purpose of no bolt if you still have a piece of plastic pushing the paint around.

The "finger" doesnt shoot the ball, it moves it into the barrel and directs the air around the ball for better accuracy.

[quick_spyder]

How are they comparable to a tac one?
I'm not seeing the comparison.

It's not an internal/parts comparison, it's a marker-to-marker comparison with accuracy, efficiency and durability.
You certainly hop to it to make someone sound stupid.

[scion]

The "finger" doesnt shoot the ball, it moves it into the barrel and directs the air around the ball for better accuracy.

But it still touches the ball, just like a bolt would. That is why some people prefer the trapdoor classic that doesn't have the "finger". The only disadvantage is that you might have balls roll out of your barrel. A barrel kit would solve that.

[Ydna]

They're cool guns. I think the developers pulled a "mikewoods" and fouled up the sales pitch with lack of cosmetic milling. It's really unfortunately that it has so much to do with a marker being successful or not.

It's basically a valve that acts much like an mQ, except it uses a mech trigger instead of a solenoid. That and there's a little shutoff like from an automag. There's a lot of different choices that you could make to turn it electro, or pneumatic like a pneumag. I'd really like to get into a project like that if there were more of the guns floating around (so I could replace mine...lol)

[Triangle]

It's not an internal/parts comparison, it's a marker-to-marker comparison with accuracy, efficiency and durability.
You certainly hop to it to make someone sound stupid.

Sound stupid?
Lets see.
A Tac one in an automag with a different body.
Tossa a Karta onto it.
Now it's a Karta mag.
Accuracy is going to be bananas no matter what you do.
All you need an an appropriate length barrel....and....it needs to be clean.
That's all.

"I've heard they are very nice. Some people have compared them with Tac Ones and have said the Epic is better overall. This is how it works"

The Epic and an Automag are two completely different marker.
So guys, I shot a viking the other day. It shot alot like a mag.
It put paint where I pointed my gun, and cycled when I pulled the trigger.
Same thing, right?

[SR_matt]

they are refering to preformance dude, if you had half of a brian you could determine what people were talikg about at lesat prat of the time.

frankly i am getting really tired of people give no help when a question is asked, being a total a-hole, then just ragging on people, so damnit if you are just going to piss people off shut up and go away
-matt

[Triangle]

they are refering to preformance dude, if you had half of a brian you could determine what people were talikg about at lesat prat of the time.

frankly i am getting really tired of people give no help when a question is asked, being a total a-hole, then just ragging on people, so damnit if you are just going to piss people off shut up and go away
-matt

Oh no, an internet toughguy.


It's called the ignore button.

[latches109]

I wonder if the trap-door would chop paint when there is tension on the ball stack; i.e. a halo. Possibly, even more so with brittle paint.

[Triangle]

I wonder if the trap-door would chop paint when there is tension on the ball stack; i.e. a halo. Possibly, even more so with brittle paint.

A guy I used to play with had one he put a lot of work and money into.
He had an Empire loader at the top, and when I played a day with it I didn't find any issues with the ballstack or have any issues with the trap door.

[y0da900]

The "finger" doesnt shoot the ball, it moves it into the barrel and directs the air around the ball for better accuracy.

Bolts don't shoot the ball either, the burst of air going through it does that. Directing the air around the finger won't do anything for accuracy. The only real advantage to a trapdoor that I can see is that it doesn't need to push the ball with a solid object, the finger negates that benefit.

[lather]

I wonder if the trap-door would chop paint when there is tension on the ball stack; i.e. a halo. Possibly, even more so with brittle paint.

Halo on an Epic is overkill--sort of like putting z-rated tires on a Yugo --I use either my revvy or apache on my epic, either of which are way lighter than a halo and are more than fast enough to feed.

[quick_spyder]

Oh no, an internet toughguy.


It's called the ignore button.

Well, if we're assigning internet positions. I think internet ***hole suits you well. You knew what I was talking about. So you're saying a cyborg and a spyder shoot the same, pull the trigger and the paint goes out the barrel.


bigguy, sorry for the irrelevant posts.