AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
If electro, my gun and hopper get turned off and I usually turn my ASA off as well.If mech, I turn off the loader, and turn on the safety and shut off the asa.
When playing pump, turn on safety and turn the asa off.
In all cases, I bag up in addition to the above.
I think that this is reasonably safe. IDK about the other kids though, they are the ones that worry me.
Then again, I was the one who had that macroline blow up at the Spring 06 big game at PB Sams... (That really friggin hurt )
everyone at the field is as safe as the most unsafe person there. That being said, there's not much else aside from degassing, Bagging. and safing the gun. Whether it's safe or not, that's all you got... kinda like hotdogs and hamburgs.
See that was one of my questions. "What does that mean safe?"
Just because you have yet to AD makes it safe? No guard no safety, brilliant.
Whats the first thing you check to determine Safe?
So I should TRUST you and a bag? A bag for all I know is old dirty and might let a ball thru.
First thing...is whether there are any paintballs in the marker. If no loader/balls, then the marker is safe.
If the marker is loaded, then...
A safety makes it safe(r). With a safety on a mechanical marker, the trigger cannot be pulled. On an electro marker, if the power is off it is safe(r).
Barrel removed makes it safe(r). Without a barrel, the force of the burst of air cannot be concentrated onto the ball to make it as dangerous as if there was a barrel.
Degassed makes it safe(r). Even though its easy to have residual pressure in the marker after de-gas.
If barrel is on, a barrel sock/plug makes it safe(r).
There are only two places you can fire. The Field or the Range. No where else. Period. How is your gun safe any place else?
Lets call it Hot and Cold. Field and Range is hot. Cocked, Locked and ready to Ramp. All systems go and BALLS will fire if you pull, touch OR BUMP the Trig. Cold is evey place else. The gun IS SAFE.
What does that mean SAFE? You put on the safety IF it has one? Slip on a bag and call it SAFE. The bag is a BAD bandaid to say your GUN is SAFE.
Whats the first thing you check to determine Safe?
How is your GUN SAFE in a GOGS OFF cold zone? Just because the safety and a bag is on doesnt mean it is SAFE. Or does it today?
Your gun is just about as safe as you treat it.
I personally degass my guns or turn them off right before I get off the field besides putting the barrel bag/plug in. Why? I'm sure everyones learned there lesson. The barrel blocking device doesn't necessarily stay on after you accidentaly fire. I've even seen a kid get hit by a barrel plug when the user claimed the safety was on. It's not the guns fault that its not safe. Its yours.
Last edited by d4m4don3; 01-28-2007, 06:51 AM.
Reason: typos, fat fingers sorry :)
As was said, I consider that a gun is safe when if you pull the trigger nothing flies out of the gun. That can be as little as a condom and as much as a gun standing alone.
Reminds me, I was playing a tourney and I went to get my tank filled. The guy told me I needed a condom. I really don't know why because I had no barre, no hopper and the gun was off. That seems a bit much. Often times I remember though the days of outlaw with just safties and it was fine.
Thank you sir. Oh and I forgot one...
I always treat it as unsafe and point it in "safe" directions until I am ready to shoot someone. Like a real gun. So I forgot to add that in all cases, I exercise common sense and avoid being a knucklehead. That should cover it...
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my standards of safe are pretty slack actually, but I've yet to shoot through a barrel sock (thanks rogue) so I dont see anyone being hurt in the near future. Heck, I'd venture to say a barrel sock could take a lot of abuse and years before being considered unsafe
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