I would like to see....

[punkncat]

Some AGD upgrades made available that could allow for PSP/X ball legal operation. Pay the royalties, make a deal with the devil, whatever....get a quality upgrade made by THE reliable source, and make what people want available. There are obviously many interested. With the size and weight of the current platform and improved speed there is no way it wouldn't attract customers. I mean really, consider (some of) the junk WGP is putting out right now. They ramp and people eat it up. They sold out, cut quality control to the max and still sell them by the boatload.

I am not saying that I would like to see AGD have to make a deal to do it, but seeing a quality ramping Emag, backed with factory confidence sure would be nice. Especially considering the pipe dreams many have dealt with over the past few years.

[CKY_Alliance]

It still wouldn't work..mags already have a rep, and most people are too narrow minded too see past that.

[MANN]

just get xmod. It ramps

[jenarelJAM]

just get xmod. It ramps

I was actually wondering... aren't you just asking for an emag with xmod? Anyone who cares about it enough can get xmod for pretty cheap. Otherwise, it doesn't matter...
/my $.02

[punkncat]

The Xmod is neither AGD designed or backed. Not to say that it doesn't work, but it doesn't come out of the box from the factory that way.

[MANN]

The Xmod is neither AGD designed or backed. Not to say that it doesn't work, but it doesn't come out of the box from the factory that way.

I agree that it is not AGD backed, but it has proven itself to be a worthy upgrade for e/xmags. I consider my programmer to be worth its weight in gold as do most other xmod users.

[warbeak2099]

I dont see that happening.

Tom has said he is against ramping, because it conflicts with ASTM standards established and agreed upon amongst the industry years ago. Which means AGD wont back a ramping code on their markers.

If you want ramping, it will have to be aftermarket. That way, if you hurt yourself or someone else, its nobodys fault but your own.

I'm just wondering if there have been any cases in which ramping resulted in an injury. Or is that some BS that whiney people came up with?

[Badmovies.org]

I always support standards. If there is a standard and AGD does not support something, because it does not adhere to that standard - then that is a choice that deserves respect - not a complaint.

[paintball_fiend]

I think that they should play on some of there strong points and then upgrade there design some with things that the community has come up with

mags are tiny....as far as vertical hight smaller than a shocker
fast as heck valve
no chops
reliable

redesign the emag lower so it is lighter get rid of the 18v battery and put in the mods people want. this would make the mag lighter smaller and faster than current tourney guns

then release there own version of the pnuemag for the mech lovers.
and a electric grip spider mag introduced for the low end


My personal favorite would be the redesigned emag everything in the grip including the nine volt battery and with all Ultra lite parts. running everything in the future like the hopper and having mech backup is cool but the tourney group would rather have tiny super fast light weight markers.

[paintball_fiend]

I dont see that happening.

Tom has said he is against ramping, because it conflicts with ASTM standards established and agreed upon amongst the industry years ago. Which means AGD wont back a ramping code on their markers.

If you want ramping, it will have to be after market. That way, if you hurt yourself or someone else, its nobody's fault but your own.

i do think that is kind of odd seeing as there is the RT trigger which when setup right can runaway / increase your fire rate and a long time ago there was a grip frame that shot both on the pull and release of the trigger for the mag

i personally don't use ramping and have mostly gone back to mech guns except my emag but it is a selling point that attracts young tourney players....fast is sexy

besides almost every rec ball fuild i go to doesn't allow any modes other than true semi

[geekwarrior]

1) I guess youve forgotten the kid that went to the hospital from Chris Lasoyas bonus-balling/overhsooting.

http://www.pbchat.com/showthread.php?threadid=179

wow, I never heard/read that before. I found Chris' statements "amusing" since on the Serial Killers Paintball DVD he states that he goes out on the field with the intention to hurt someone. And he's the guy who shot the play in the back of the head from about 5 ft away long after the guy was out. surprised he's allowed to play at all.

[warbeak2099]

1) I guess youve forgotten the kid that went to the hospital from Chris Lasoyas bonus-balling/overhsooting.

http://www.pbchat.com/showthread.php?threadid=179

That wasn't ramping. The debounce was out of control and the gun was set on BURST. Controlled, limited ramping has never produced any injuries.

[CKY_Alliance]

That wasn't ramping. The debounce was out of control and the gun was set on BURST. Controlled, limited ramping has never produced any injuries.

Not to mention stupidity and arrogance.

[craltal]

I do believe that incident came about before ramping was "legal" or am I thinking of another Chris Lasoya bonus balling incident...

[CKY_Alliance]

Is that some BS that whiney people came up with?

It was the debounces fault!. "Sorry Mr. Kid, that was BURST. It caused you injury becaue it was on BURST, not RAMPING mode. If that were ramping mode, all those extra balls wouldnt have hurt you. Thats why ramping is so great, after the first ball, the others dont hurt!"

The kid got hurt because he was shot with multiple successive shots. The exact same thing would have happened regardless of what you call it.



Bounce. Ramp. Full Auto. You can call it what you want. Its all againsnt ASTM standards, making it all the same in the eyes of safety and regulations.

One pull/release, one shot. Anything else has caused injuries.

So no one has every been hurt by a gun shooting semi?...