Mag refuses to run on co2

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  • sixtoes1313
    Registered User
    • Nov 2006
    • 402

    #1

    Mag refuses to run on co2

    Well today i tried again in vain to have my nightmag run on co2 for a day of playing. I switched out the X valve for a minimag valve, hooked up one of those beefy 8 stage expansion chambers and ran a remote line to my pack. The gun shot fine in my house so i figured i finally succeeded and went out to play the next day. It was about 45* fareignheight today so we went out to play. I got all the way back in the woods and sure enough the valve starts to freeze and its snowing out the barrel. Back to plan B- fall back on the sniper(i dont know what it'd do without that thing) any suggestions for c02 use on mags?
  • MANN
    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
    • Apr 2006
    • 4266

    #2
    dont use a level 10. put lots of oil in your inlet

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    • FARMER00
      Registered User
      • Jan 2006
      • 533

      #3
      is your tank a antisiphon? if it is you cant run a remote line because when the tank is verticle it the tube will go right into the liquid co2. thats what it seems like because you shouldnt have problems with a exp chamber and remote

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      • mag_lover05
        AEQUITAS
        • Jul 2005
        • 970

        #4
        antisiphon tank, plus a femal stab as a bottomline setup.

        should work.

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        • FARMER00
          Registered User
          • Jan 2006
          • 533

          #5
          Originally posted by mag_lover05
          antisiphon tank, plus a femal stab as a bottomline setup.

          should work.
          antisiphon with a remote will not work, the tube used to get the gas not liquid will be submersed in liquid co2 when the tank is verticle, thus sucking in liquid direct to the valve

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          • georgeyew
            Registered User
            • Jan 2007
            • 704

            #6
            Originally posted by FARMER00
            antisiphon with a remote will not work, the tube used to get the gas not liquid will be submersed in liquid co2 when the tank is verticle, thus sucking in liquid direct to the valve
            Wouldn't the remote line give the liquid enough room to turn into gas before getting to the valve? At least that was what I've always thought.

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            • neppo1345
              I Will Eat Your Children..
              • Oct 2005
              • 1913

              #7
              Firm scolding and a spanking?

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              • cyrus-the-virus
                http://www.thepbforum.com/
                • Feb 2006
                • 1259

                #8
                Originally posted by neppo1345
                Firm scolding and a spanking?
                I just got attitude problems when I tried that.

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                • PumpMag
                  Clare Broke My Mag Club

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 821

                  #9
                  CO2 + Cold Weather

                  Mags just don't like CO2 in cold weather.

                  In fact CO2 just wreaks havok in cold climates. Too cold, too difficult for the liquid to change to gas state.

                  At a pump tourney I played more than a year ago, when CO2 was used, everyone's velocity kept spiking because it was too cold. It seemed that the chrono line took forever.

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                  • Pacifist_Farmer
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 740

                    #10
                    I've got a brand new sideline stabilizer I'll sell you, that might help.

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                    • sixtoes1313
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 402

                      #11
                      no thanks on the sideline. more than i'd like to spend just until i can get a smaller tank( local proshop can only fill to 2500-3000 psi and it seemd like with such a small fill my 4500 only lasted a few hundred shots. plus all this junk on my gun ruins the look. Ill just keep using the pump until it gets warmer or I get less poor.

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                      • FARMER00
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 533

                        #12
                        Originally posted by georgeyew
                        Wouldn't the remote line give the liquid enough room to turn into gas before getting to the valve? At least that was what I've always thought.
                        you would think so, but i have 2 tanks on anti siphoned and one normal, and sometime i forget which is which and when i get the antisiphoned one it never works

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                        • punkncat
                          One foot less
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 5841

                          #13
                          The cold weather was part of the problem. Cold CO2 has less pressure, probably not even enough to run the valve. Also the cold will have a tendency to return the gas back to liquid in the lines.

                          I have known people to (unadvisedly and unsafely) put warm packs around tanks, or to put the tank inside clothing layers to warm it up.

                          GL

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                          • aqua_scummm
                            matthewpace.blogspot.com
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 185

                            #14
                            mags run around 450 psi tops, so it would have to be DAMN cold to not hit that pressure. And since they're regulated, heat packs are less dangerous, you won't go shooting too hot.

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                            • FARMER00
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 533

                              #15
                              Originally posted by aqua_scummm
                              mags run around 450 psi tops, so it would have to be DAMN cold to not hit that pressure. And since they're regulated, heat packs are less dangerous, you won't go shooting too hot.
                              im not guru on mags but WWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT????????????????? ?????????????????????????? most people here will say about 850 is the best to run them on, thats for a classic valve(which the thread is about) i dont know about the X or rt valves but i assume they are about the same

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