Mag refuses to run on co2

[punkncat]

mags run around 450 psi tops, so it would have to be DAMN cold to not hit that pressure. And since they're regulated, heat packs are less dangerous, you won't go shooting too hot.

Actually mags run at a considerably higher pressure than that. My Xvalve w/ LX quits a bit over 700PSI. There is a graph/chart somewhere that shows pressure vs. ambient temperature for CO2...too lazy to search for it, but it doesn't take too cool a temp to reduce the pressure a great deal. The problem feeds itself as well, you freeze up the first bit and the cold causes the problem to snowball. No pun intended.

The problem wasn't the marker end with a heat pack. It was the burst disk going while a tank is "in your pocket".

[FARMER00]

Actually mags run at a considerably higher pressure than that. My Xvalve w/ LX quits a bit over 700PSI. There is a graph/chart somewhere that shows pressure vs. ambient temperature for CO2...too lazy to search for it, but it doesn't take too cool a temp to reduce the pressure a great deal. The problem feeds itself as well, you freeze up the first bit and the cold causes the problem to snowball. No pun intended.

The problem wasn't the marker end with a heat pack. It was the burst disk going while a tank is "in your pocket".

http://www.doomlabs.com/science/co2pv.gif

there you go, i was interested myself lol

[Desega]

Buy a nitro tank.

[paintballfiend]

Buy a nitro tank.

QFT

[turbo chicken]

mags run around 450 psi tops, so it would have to be DAMN cold to not hit that pressure. And since they're regulated, heat packs are less dangerous, you won't go shooting too hot.

I'm assuming that your talking after the regulator right??? this is true the out put pressure of the A.I.R. reg is around 350-400 ... but without the inlet pressure into the A.I.R. at 800+ it doesn't recharge fast enough and the gun doesn't operate properly ...

I'd almost venture to say (as im not 100% sure) that because it can't recharge fast enough that the on/off has a hard time resetting at a speed to which the sear resets fast enough to catch the bolt ... and what you get is an on off opened too long keeping the bolt from being able to fully close because of the air escaping down the PT thus the "snow effect"

you could almost say it gets put out of time!!!

Did I get it right guys??

I'm finally converting ... even if I have to get a cheap steely ... i think it will be worth it..since the mag will soon be pump ... a small 48/300 or one of those tiny ones from wevo..

[Shane-O-Mac]

Before you blame the Co2, make sure the gun is in proper working order and has been lubed properly. Make sure you have no tank cover on your Co2 tank also, when you shoot it in cold wheather the pack its in or the cover on it can retain cold next to the tank. The tank works best out in the air, even if it is cold. That way you can get some temperature transfer to help keep the pressure up. When its that cold, you may try the heat packs, try just one first, dont wanna blow a disc while its on your back, or near your face. Oh yea, when its 45* out shoot LESS! 2-3 round bursts and wait 15-30 seconds in between bursts. Or shoot one shot at a time, slowly, and stop after 10 or so for about 30 seconds.

Shane-O

[georgeyew]

I saw a mag like this with a CO2 bottle attached to the ASA in the back. Wouldn't that be a no-no since the CO2 would have no room to expand and get sucked into the valve?

I could not upload a photo so I am including a link of the photo:

http://www.imagetor.com/out.php/t12544_automag.jpg