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  • Dryden
    Team Nemesis

    • Jun 2003
    • 931

    #106
    I would advise you NOT eat the Everlasting Pepperballs.
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    • zazzoo
      Registered User

      • Jan 2005
      • 843

      #107
      Is it bad i thought about posting something like this too, when i read this thread?
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      http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=848340

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      • slade
        Carpe Noctem
        • Apr 2004
        • 3442

        #108
        Originally posted by aqua_scummm
        They definitely should (it will likely be a multimeter), but you'll need to know electronics basics to use it:

        where did you get that? and can i have permission to copy it? <.<

        Originally posted by Minnesota111
        What about some kind of chemical reaction test? Back in college, I used various acids and bases to distinguish different minerals. Could the same thing be done here?
        personally, i'd spark a valve before dropping acid on it.
        xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
        68/30 PE nitro tank
        cp unimount
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        • originalspyderxtra
          Registered User
          • Jul 2006
          • 114

          #109
          Originally posted by Redkey
          Howdy folks... About 100 feet from my desk I have a Scanning Electron Microscope that is equiped with and EDS system we use it on an almost daily basis to determine the chemical compositions of steel and aluminum alloys. It can measure a wide range of elements including Ti. It's completely none destructive since we're just bombarding the target with a stream of electrons and then measuring the Xrays given off as electrons are knocked out of their orbits.

          So... if it's necessary to completely verify the composition of a valve I can help... for free.

          i was actually on my way to this thread to suggest using an electron microscope. i wish i had one myself cause i dont feel like sending my valve out and waiting on an answer. though maybe i can give it to my cousin and he could do it at college......

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          • T F
            Registered User
            • Nov 2001
            • 76

            #110
            This is the tale of Archimedes. Replace Heiro with Tom Kaye and you have a great story.

            Now - all of you - go take a bath.

            TF
            Gently Redistributing Karma at 300 F.P.S.

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            • aqua_scummm
              matthewpace.blogspot.com
              • Oct 2006
              • 185

              #111
              Originally posted by slade
              where did you get that? and can i have permission to copy it? <.<


              personally, i'd spark a valve before dropping acid on it.
              I think its from toothpastefordinner.com

              And go for it, it's not mine

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              • RobAGD
                Cantankerous Administrator

                • Oct 2000
                • 2030

                #112
                Hahah Tom you sure stirred up the guys on this one

                The thousands of valves we handled and never found one

                What year did you all make those ?

                I would assume with a number set 40-50k or 4-5k MiniMag they would absolute turn valves ?

                BTW guys, valve means PT to Reg Housing, nothing inside. Thats if they made the valves complete, it could just be the Reg Housing and Main Valve Body with standard SS PT's

                Have you checked the bin of killed and condemded valves ?

                -Robert
                Serving AGD customers since 93, wishing I could beat some common since into some of them about 5 hrs later.

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                • latches109

                  #113
                  I feel like I'm looking for the golden ticket so I can take a tour of the factory.

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                  • Tao
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 834

                    #114
                    Originally posted by latches109
                    I feel like I'm looking for the golden ticket so I can take a tour of the factory.
                    Hey Tom does a personal tour of AGD come with your offer for a titanium valve? :rofl:

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                    • kiltedpainter
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 21

                      #115
                      Can anyone establish the density of a valve known to be stainless steel? All that needs to be done is find the mass and then immerse it in a graduated cylinder to determine the volume. once that is established, any valve with a considerably lower density that this established steel valve is obviously titanium.

                      TK, i'm sure you have a definitively steel powertube/valve/reg assembly somewhere that you could find and establish the density of 304 SS for us. Would you mind doing that?

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                      • slade
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 3442

                        #116
                        steel weighs .2836 pounds per square inch, titanium .1621. those numbers may differ slightly depending on the alloy.
                        xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                        68/30 PE nitro tank
                        cp unimount
                        halo B

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                        • LoveMyMagMoreThanYou
                          Got my 'Mag!! Let's Go!!!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 389

                          #117
                          Originally posted by slade
                          steel weighs .2836 pounds per square inch, titanium .1621. those numbers may differ slightly depending on the alloy.
                          Did you mean cubic inch? I guarantee that 4 sq in of 1" thick steel weighs more than 4sq in of 1/4" thick steel..............
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                          • slade
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3442

                            #118
                            yeah, cubic inch. its hard to assign a mass to an area.
                            xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                            68/30 PE nitro tank
                            cp unimount
                            halo B

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                            • MiniSpdRcr
                              I fall alot...
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 602

                              #119
                              So what would be the easiest way to tell?
                              Marcin P. "Ya gotta dig the Polish!" ~ Army
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                              • slade
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3442

                                #120
                                Originally posted by MiniSpdRcr
                                So what would be the easiest way to tell?
                                spark it against a grinding wheel. if you dont want to damage the valve, weigh it or use an ohmeter.
                                xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                                68/30 PE nitro tank
                                cp unimount
                                halo B

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