Final word on the Mini?

[chip08]

So what's the final word on the mini? I know they are small and light. I know some people don't like the eye logic, but a new board can fix that. What about the trigger? How does it compare to and Emag or and Ego? Is it as easy to rip as an Ego? Anything else?

[mobsterboy]

they chopped paint like mad this last tourney game. No one could shoot their minis. So in other words, Im going with a PM Rail with a UL frame that Im getting for DIRT CHEAP!!!

[Desega]

All of the minis that we've sold through our shop shoot great. My little brother plays with one and has never had any issues with it. Chopping is probably a result of people "tuning" their guns without knowing how.

[Lohman446]

Mine shoots fine, there have been a few people who have had to tune them to avoid chopping paint.

[geekwarrior]

There were 4 at our last AO meet last Sat....think we're all sold on them. Atach and Lohman each have one, and I think they both like em.

I have had mine for about 4 months now, and besides the initial problem with the board, it's been shooting great. I have had one break so far, and that was due to low batteries in the hopper. Probably shot about 10 cases through it. If you can set it up right, you shouldn't have problems.

[chip08]

So some people have this chopping problem. Would the rampage board improve on this? Lastly, does the Mini walk really easily?

[Lohman446]

Most people who have had chopping have issues with detents or the front seal failing causing severe blowback. Because it uses an HES sensor its the equivilant of having a 0 gram switch and being able to adjust it in most any direction you want - so it can be made to walk easily.

[geekwarrior]

So some people have this chopping problem. Would the rampage board improve on this? Lastly, does the Mini walk really easily?

I would try both guns if you can, I think both are great guns. The board should help and has alot of nice features. The stock trigger isn't my favorite(its not bad though), but there should be some aftermarket ones out soon.

[paintballwannab]

Chopping is from people either not having them set up correctly or not broken in properly.
I personally have one and have two others at my local field. All of them shoot amazing. I've had about 2 cases through mine and had two breaks total, both of which were in the stock barrel(.691) using my freak correctly sized no problems at all.
The only issue I have had and its not really the mini's problem. Older freaks/all american backs do not fit in the brech, the outer diameter is too big to fit in the gun. I just turned my freak back down a couple hundreds of a inch and it fits perfect. New style freak backs fit perfect, but for some reason smart parts made the older ones bigger.



Trigger when set up correctly is very fast, I've never shot a emag, but the trigger feels the same as my team mates '07 ego.

I feel they are a very great gun, waiting for some grips to come out to fit it but other then that I love the gun.

[Mongoose]

the last one i saw dry fired like a dream but it did chop paint a few times at the field.
very light and compact....one for the front guys...overall...i'll stick to my mag,

[lasrsktr]

The chopping issue is from those who do not take the time to set up their marker correctly...

IE... the lvl10.

I have shot about 5 cases through my mini and have yet to chop a single ball.

That came with knowledge and trial and error from a buddy of mine who was able to give me settings that would allow flawless performance out of the box.


If you don't know about a marker or have no personal experience how can you even have an opinion...

I now have changed the board to the APE board and haven't looked back.

[68magOwner]

I have owned 3 mini's so far, all of mine have been great, no eye issues, no chopping, all good stuff.

[bryguy27007]

Lastly, does the Mini walk really easily?

I don't own one, but there are a few floating around the fields I go to. I personally can not stand the trigger.

[93civiccpe]

The chopping issue is from those who do not take the time to set up their marker correctly...

IE... the lvl10.

I have shot about 5 cases through my mini and have yet to chop a single ball.

That came with knowledge and trial and error from a buddy of mine who was able to give me settings that would allow flawless performance out of the box.


If you don't know about a marker or have no personal experience how can you even have an opinion...

I now have changed the board to the APE board and haven't looked back.

lvl10??? There is no antichop setup on an invert mini.. unlike a mag with lvl 10, if you put your finger in an invert mini breech and pull the trigger, I feel bad for your finger. There is no system for exhausting air through the back of the bolt on the mini yet, although I've heard rumors of a possible future bolt with a similar design. Trust me, a guy at our field tried it (like an idiot) and we had to take the tank off the asa to free his finger, which swelled up nice and had a nice little cut on it.

Some mini's shoot beautiful out of the box, some break paint like a pro out of the box. If you follow the breakin procedure in the thread on pbnation under the title "Read this before asking questions" by 4x4le, that usually helps a ton. Plus, the APE board does fix the 3 main problems people have had with the mini... the burping/farting noise some make when you first try to fire it, the chopping issues, and also the bolt stick issues a few have had. The APE board is the best thing you can do for your mini.. that and replacing the stock detents with Kila detents. The stock detents seem to stick a good bit and cause double feeding and chopping. The kila magnetic ones make it great. All in all, I had one which required a good bit of tuning to get rid of the blowback, but the addition of kila detents and the APE board makes everything better. =)

[paintballwannab]

There are break beam eyes standard on all mini's, the only way it will shoot is if there is a ball in the chamber. Your finger if you stick it all at way to the bottom of the chamber to break the beam then yes it will shoot.....but why would your finger be there in the first place? Does this guy normally put his finger into the chamber of a gassed up marker? lol


Again 99% of the chopping is from the markers not being set up correctly, same with a level10, if its not set up correctly it will chop also.