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  • WalkingTarget
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 107

    #61
    the very fact he suggests they're useful for home defense is illegal, never mind that he's selling prohibited ammunition.

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    • grEnAlEins
      dazed and confused
      • Jul 2002
      • 2864

      #62
      Originally posted by skife
      Come to think of it, those would be really nice in a PGP for a non-deadly home defense.
      There's a great idea Sorry, but in a home defense situation I would attempt to neutralize the threat, not give it a bruise. My Benelli will suffice.

      Think of it now, somebody puts these into a PGP and uses them at your field. You would not be a happy camper. What if it were to hit you in the throat with one of these? You would would not be a happy camper. What if one of the PBN kiddies put them into his Ego/DM/whatever and shot with an uncapped ramp? or even 15bps? In either case, you would not be a happy camper.

      Also non-deadly is not a word that can accurately describe these. They can, and have, killed people. They are less likely to be deadly than a gunshot, but they can be deadly nonetheless.
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      • Raven001
        Registered User
        • Apr 2004
        • 314

        #63
        Originally posted by d4m4don3
        BTW whats the law on exportng fire arms across the Canadian border? Does anyone know?
        Firearms are restricted up here so whoever is buying yours needs to have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate. Once it crosses the border, it will be held up at customs. If your using FedEx or something similar, they will notify you that it is here and you need to get the proper paperwork to have it released.

        Now this may not happen exactly this way but it should be close. The receiver of the gun will need to go to their local police force department office that deals with firearms registration and show them a receipt for payment of the weapon giving its description and serial number. They will then issue a transport permit (and possibly something else for customs) that allows the new owner to pick up the gun and transport it back to the police. They will then verify that he gun is not stolen, been used in a crime and is within what is allowed here in Canada. If everything is kosher, you get another transport permit allowing you to take it to your place of residence.

        More or less this is what happens. I have never imported a weapon so I may be a little off on the exact sequence of events but for a normal buy, that is what I have gone through.

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        • WalkingTarget
          Registered User
          • Mar 2007
          • 107

          #64
          heh..

          International Trade student here...

          you can import any weapon into canada, even RPGs and the like... the sticking point is that you need to have the correct licencing... for instance, military grade ordenance can only be purchased by the military, same with police grade equipment.

          the procedure will differ provence to provence, but the weapon will have to cross the border with a bonded carrier, and will have to be delivered to a location that has the licencing to handle the transfer of the weapon.

          in general, you can only import items like long guns (ie. rifles and shotguns) and pistols (with heavy restrictions)

          semi-autos are permited in canada, but high capacity magazines are illegal without the equivalent of a 'Class 3' firearms licence

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          • Raven001
            Registered User
            • Apr 2004
            • 314

            #65
            I presumed that d4m4don3 was not exporting to an licensed importer and dealt with what a normal citizen would have to go through. Since I have never bought from outside the country I may have an item or two a little fuzzy but the basics are there...

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            • WalkingTarget
              Registered User
              • Mar 2007
              • 107

              #66
              it's basically the same as buying from a private owner... you have to ship it between licenced shops. i'd have to go to the particular regulations, but it't not as hard as you'd think, just need to have the right documentation.

              it is expensive though, as you have to go through customs brokers (or know someone who can fill out the paper work)

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              • cyrus-the-virus
                http://www.thepbforum.com/
                • Feb 2006
                • 1259

                #67
                Originally posted by BigTrucker
                Sorry you could not take a joke Chris_automag_07. If you lost someone i am sorry for your loss, It was just a joke.
                A very bad one. jerk.

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                • bryceeden
                  www.vernalpaintball.com
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1076

                  #68
                  Lets all just threaten E-bay. Tell them that the first time we see a news cast of someone being shot by these we will ALL contact the vicim and trace the balls to where purchased and make sure EVERYONE(includeing ebay if they allowed the sale) involved in the sale is sued for it. Enough threats and they'll pull his auctions pretty quick.(J/K E-bay will probably take care of it pretty quick anyway)

                  I run a tourney circuit, you have no idea how screwed I'd be if someone snuck these onto my field and shot someone with it. Even though I didn't have knowledge of it and make everyone sign a very comprehensive waiver it wouldn't take long for a lawyer to take me for everything I own. Not to mention the damage done to the person hit with them, damage done to the sport by the media, and all the other crap that would flow freely from a disater like that. Red fill paint is bad enough as there is no reason for it at all, but atleast it doesn't do irreprible damage. This guy is litterally dangorous and a menace to society.

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                  • Rudz
                    Registered User

                    • Apr 2005
                    • 5087

                    #69
                    i reported him to ebay, and sent ebay an email, and the seller an email, " i hope he drives off and cliff and dies, and a deer comes by and poops in his mouth"...
                    BEO MAFIA
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                    • Dover
                      Blaze away all day
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 1703

                      #70
                      1999 WTO Summit - the World Trade Organization Summit was besieged by protesters in 1999, I saw footage on TV of these rubber projectiles being used on people. Tons of video footage at www.youtube.com

                      These were used as I mentioned in 1999 by the Seattle Police Department. SPD officers were sent out equipped with Tippmann Pro Carbine .68 paintball markers with simple 200 round gravity loaders filled with these things. They were seen on TV blasting away at protesters and vandals.

                      The damage to the Seattle downtown district was horrendous, millions of dollars in damage from looting to shattered glass to commercial properties like Starbuck's and The Gap. Apprently these things hurt like a son of a biatch and caused substantial bruising as well as incapacitating a person, can't remember if it was a hit to the head or chest...
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                      • skife
                        Unregistered User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2769

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Dover
                        1999 WTO Summit - the World Trade Organization Summit was besieged by protesters in 1999, I saw footage on TV of these rubber projectiles being used on people. Tons of video footage at www.youtube.com

                        These were used as I mentioned in 1999 by the Seattle Police Department. SPD officers were sent out equipped with Tippmann Pro Carbine .68 paintball markers with simple 200 round gravity loaders filled with these things. They were seen on TV blasting away at protesters and vandals.

                        The damage to the Seattle downtown district was horrendous, millions of dollars in damage from looting to shattered glass to commercial properties like Starbuck's and The Gap. Apprently these things hurt like a son of a biatch and caused substantial bruising as well as incapacitating a person, can't remember if it was a hit to the head or chest...
                        they should have used revvy's




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                        • Dover
                          Blaze away all day
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 1703

                          #72
                          Aaww dude, could you imagine if they used a force-feed, like even the HALO 1...

                          or a paintball enthusiast on the SPD slapping an E-Grip on his Tippmann?

                          They were just firing into the crowd, some were targeting specific protesters, but it was like thousands of unruly protesters against a couple hundred law enforcement, even Corrections personnel were called in!

                          The dude trying to sell these rubber projectiles is just trying to make an honest buck, would you rather him grow and sell or smuggle our great Canadian marijuana instead?
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                          • Mongoose
                            VenomousDesigns.com

                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1593

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Dover
                            Aaww dude, could you imagine if they used a force-feed, like even the HALO 1...

                            or a paintball enthusiast on the SPD slapping an E-Grip on his Tippmann?

                            They were just firing into the crowd, some were targeting specific protesters, but it was like thousands of unruly protesters against a couple hundred law enforcement, even Corrections personnel were called in!

                            The dude trying to sell these rubber projectiles is just trying to make an honest buck, would you rather him grow and sell or smuggle our great Canadian marijuana instead?
                            YES!!!

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                            • Dover
                              Blaze away all day
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 1703

                              #74
                              Hehe, I (heart) bud!!! It's in my Custom User Title - Blaze Away All Day!!

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                              • bentothejam1n
                                Support our troops
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 1428

                                #75
                                not sure if this has been said yet but if that steel ball was off center at all, when shot, it would go all over the place

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