AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Aaww dude, could you imagine if they used a force-feed, like even the HALO 1...
or a paintball enthusiast on the SPD slapping an E-Grip on his Tippmann?
They were just firing into the crowd, some were targeting specific protesters, but it was like thousands of unruly protesters against a couple hundred law enforcement, even Corrections personnel were called in!
The dude trying to sell these rubber projectiles is just trying to make an honest buck, would you rather him grow and sell or smuggle our great Canadian marijuana instead?
and you know what? if used by the cops they would be great, problem being this guy is distributing them to anybody with a credit card or e-bay account.
now the guy who could never get his hands on a real gun can just run down to Canadian Tire or Walmart, pick up something with an E-grip and go on a rampage.
if anybody here has ordered them, try getting shot by them at 300fps.. i've been hit by a pepperball, and those are bad enough, just try getting hit by something with a steel core.
This is a bloody POLICE item, not something that should be able to be purchased by a 14 year old.
Yeah, there should be some kind of restriction or policing imposed by eBay, for they were they place from which this person is providing these items. Besides, eBay is a trust-based system; they trust the seller and buyer are going to be doing legitimate things, not causing pre-meditated injury.
So then it is up to us to be vigilant and professional when coming across someone who is not as well-versed in ethics and morals. It is like the heroes of Virginia Tech (God Bless you all) who stepped forward to act rather than condemn. Instead of being reactive, we should be pro-active; teach our friends and acquaintances, and even complete strangers, to embrace each other. (yes I am stoned. )
But it is true, you could potentially buy these off eBay, then run out to your local Wal-Mart and grab a $25 12-gram Brass Eagle Talon or whatever, and hurt somebody real bad, and with our lax punishments it would only be a slap on the wrist, and then we would see paintball markers being pulled from public stores, btw Wal-Mart is prohibited from selling firearms or ammunition in Canada.
Yeah, there should be some kind of restriction or policing imposed by eBay, for they were they place from which this person is providing these items. Besides, eBay is a trust-based system; they trust the seller and buyer are going to be doing legitimate things, not causing pre-meditated injury.
QFT is Quoted For Truth.
As to e-bay recording incredible corporate profits and then hiding behind some "trust based" nonsense to try to avoid responsibility:
E-bay (probably) will pull these, they tend to pull on the side of safety.
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Why all the freakin' uproar over this guy's sale? If someone is going to be a jerk and use their marker irresponsibly, what difference is it whether they use these rubber balls or a sack of marbles? (I prefer to get hit by a rubber ball, thank you) All the effort and *****ing and moaning and threats to call his local PD...so what? Does his selling these things drastically increase the odds that you are going to get hit with one on the paintball field? I seriously doubt it. If someone is going to play the fool, they can just as easily do it with marbles or ball bearings. Should we ban the sale of them?
By hassling and inhibiting his sale, you are preventing responsible people who may be able to put his product to good use from doing so. If someone wanted a less than lethal way to protect themselves, this could very well be an option. I don't subscribe to it personally, but I respect the rights of those who do.
Edit........*****ing, ***** Yup thats cussing. Its called activating the filter.
Yeah, it's just unfortunate that the seller is catching so much flak, but then again it's like going around selling pictures of little kids, it's cute in one sense and creepy (if not downright illegal) in another sense.
Why all the freakin' uproar over this guy's sale? If someone is going to be a jerk and use their marker irresponsibly, what difference is it whether they use these rubber balls or a sack of marbles? (I prefer to get hit by a rubber ball, thank you) All the effort and *****ing and moaning and threats to call his local PD...so what? Does his selling these things drastically increase the odds that you are going to get hit with one on the paintball field? I seriously doubt it. If someone is going to play the fool, they can just as easily do it with marbles or ball bearings. Should we ban the sale of them?
By hassling and inhibiting his sale, you are preventing responsible people who may be able to put his product to good use from doing so. If someone wanted a less than lethal way to protect themselves, this could very well be an option. I don't subscribe to it personally, but I respect the rights of those who do.
Because projectile weapons are banned from E-bay? Of course, some of us care about rules (such as the rules against cursing on this board), some of you apparently don't.
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
Because projectile weapons are banned from E-bay? Of course, some of us care about rules (such as the rules against cursing on this board), some of you apparently don't.
Ebay okays the sale of BB's and Pellets for those guns. They arent rubber coated.
You completely ignored the argument that if someone is going to make a decision to misuse a paintball gun for nefarious means, there is not much you can do to stop him. Such a person is obviously sick in the head and will find a way to achieve their mischief. Stop harassing this guy.
Swearing? I didnt see any swearing.
Did a series of asterisks in a row offend your sensibilities? Is that what you have devolved to?
guy is located in canada and is breaking canadian law.
even if it is legal in the us, what he is doing is illegal here, thusly he should be stopped.
Do you know for certain that it is against Canadian law to sell these items? I spent the evening scouring the web for info on Canada's weapon's laws and did not find anything that specifically ruled out the sale of these items.
Yes, non-lethal weapons are unlawful in Canuckville, but I would imagine that it is the act of loading these into a paintball gun and firing them is the unlawful act, not the buying and selling of rubber coated steel spheroids. The same illegal act could be accomplished with a trip to a local hardware or toy store.
Before you start reporting this guy to Terrence and Phillip, lets see if you have the correct information. I am very interested in reading something from the govt that states specifically that he is committing an unlawful act by posting something on Ebay.
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