Sterling Soveriegn III

[JaKaL]

I am serious, how durable are these things? It looks to me like one hit would take your marker out for the day. Are they tougher than they look or...

No more delicate than an autococker. Just 'cause you're not used to seeing the 3-way on the grip frame doesn't mean it's fragile. They're actually excellent guns, very comparable in performance to mech cockers. In fact, there were a couple high-level tourney teams that used the guns back in the day - Bad Boyz Toyz had a custom shop model out that was VERY nice.

Sterlings and Sov's are both well made and fun to shoot guns. I've owned Sterlings for a long time.

[wolf13]

Bit of history, Danny love actually was one of the designers on it and Aftershock used them briefly. BBT and Eclipse both did custom versions, as did Brad Nestle and Ken at KPCS. They are basicly an autococker, with the biggest change being the rambolt. They are basicly the same performance wise as a decently tuned cocker, and they have fixed a lot of issues. The 3's are relativly knew and came out after a couple of years hiatus, centerfeed is an option and the latest ones have spyder threading, 1's, 2's and early 3's are their own thread. They really don't have much in common with the sterling pump, but a few parts are interchangable with a cocker. I have two 1's and I really like them, small, relativly light and comfortable for me. They are the next step for a cocker, and I like them better then a palmer to be honest. Biggest flaw early on was the LPR's but the later oens are a lot better and you can retap for a standard lpr if you really want.

This thread Ken and I put together has a lot of basic sovereign info:

http://www.customcockers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231

[going_home]

Thanks !

Bit of history, Danny love actually was one of the designers on it and Aftershock used them briefly. BBT and Eclipse both did custom versions, as did Brad Nestle and Ken at KPCS. They are basicly an autococker, with the biggest change being the rambolt. They are basicly the same performance wise as a decently tuned cocker, and they have fixed a lot of issues. The 3's are relativly knew and came out after a couple of years hiatus, centerfeed is an option and the latest ones have spyder threading, 1's, 2's and early 3's are their own thread. They really don't have much in common with the sterling pump, but a few parts are interchangable with a cocker. I have two 1's and I really like them, small, relativly light and comfortable for me. They are the next step for a cocker, and I like them better then a palmer to be honest. Biggest flaw early on was the LPR's but the later oens are a lot better and you can retap for a standard lpr if you really want.

This thread Ken and I put together has a lot of basic sovereign info:
http://www.customcockers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231

Very useful, full of information.
Thanks for posting the link !
I really dont like cockers (besides my Series 6) and I like anything Palmer makes even less,
so I guess I'd better stick with getting a Sterling Bronze or STP.

[wolf13]

no problem, Theres a few people around who still like em and they had a better following in the UK where they were more readily available. Sterling and Arrow never made a real push into the US market. you might be suprised; but if you don't like cockers to begin with, its probably not the gun you want. Its got a lot of tricks, but its still a cocker at heart. The sterlings are nice though.

[going_home]

no problem, Theres a few people around who still like em and they had a better following in the UK where they were more readily available. Sterling and Arrow never made a real push into the US market. you might be suprised; but if you don't like cockers to begin with, its probably not the gun you want. Its got a lot of tricks, but its still a cocker at heart. The sterlings are nice though.

I just emailed the rep for Arrow on prices for the Bronze, STP, and Sovereign III.
I'll post up what he says.
The phone number is actually a Tampa area number, local for me, so I may call him this week.

[shives007]

I have a Mark I & a Mark III

While my Mark I was at Paintball Maxx (won't go into the whole story there), I contacted Mark. He, I felt, went out of his way to try and help me resolve the issue w/ my Mark I. When it looked like it just wasn't happening, he gave me a great deal on a Mark III (I think there was some kind of a trade in program for a while).

I have shot my Mark III a few times, and think it is great. At least as nice as a slightly upped Cocker. If I could do more w/ it, I'm sure it could really compete. When your playing walk-on mostly, what do you really need? [I'll be mean and say a few years of experience, and any gun will take a 14 year old w/ an Ion and Mommy's credit card.] Only real limit I found was it being Spyder threaded. Need a Spyder Freak back, or smething better than the stock barrel. Working on that.

I did get my Mark I back. Along w/ a bag of O-rings. The thing had supposedly been fixed. Once again, I won't go there. Anyway, it has a uinique threading for the barrel. Once I get around to putting the O-rings (thank you Mark Ambrose) in and getting it to run, I'll worry out that. I have a stock barrel, and what looks like a SP, so we'll see what can be done on done the road.

I always loved the concept and lines of the Sov. That's why I begged my Mark I from Bartman, and took the leap on the Mark III. It is a Cocker, but taken to a slightly different level (won't say better). If you have a few extra bucks, anf want something unique, I highly recomend it. No, I don't, that will make mine less unique. Ah, heck, you know what I mean.

Shives