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  • nathanjones008
    Magpride008
    • Nov 2006
    • 515

    #1

    Is this crazy?

    I looked on the comany webisght www.airgun.com i have noticed that the ule rt mag jumped to 481.00 !!! Wow it was 412.00 the other day. Last december when i bought a ule rt it was 355.00 Can someone explain what is going on? the price has changed like 4 times in the past 5 months. i think i brought this concern up a few months ago, but when a rt goes for nearly 500.00 brand new i think its something to bring up. ANy how and info will be helpful.

    p.s i know gas prices are not 20.00 a gallon yet.
    Last edited by nathanjones008; 05-23-2007, 05:44 AM.
  • BigEvil
    www.BigEvilOnline.com

    • Feb 2005
    • 9333

    #2
    Very easy answer.

    AGD is starting to run out of parts, and is replacing out of stock items with new inventory. They are NOT making large runs, so the smaller quanities of parts that are being made are costing them substantially more money per-peice.

    The increase in price is a reflection of that.

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    • nathanjones008
      Magpride008
      • Nov 2006
      • 515

      #3
      wow

      if that is true then holy crap! They are not going to have hardly any business now. On the same token agd doesnt seen to carea bout making money, I guess it is good for those who are selling there mags on ebay , the value of their maker will go up.

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      • pyrodragon
        Retired Mag Lover
        • Jun 2003
        • 224

        #4
        Originally posted by nathanjones008
        if that is true then holy crap! They are not going to have hardly any business now. On the same token agd doesnt seen to carea bout making money, I guess it is good for those who are selling there mags on ebay , the value of their maker will go up.
        also it's probably gotta be the cost of shipping items. food is going up too. when gas prices goes up so does everything else.
        shoot you later
        i play for the game not the fame.

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        • Pacifist_Farmer
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 740

          #5
          Originally posted by nathanjones008
          On the same token agd doesnt seen to carea bout making money
          What about the price increase tells you they don't care about making money? It tells me the exact opposite, there is not as much demand for their product so they reduce inventory, manufacture in small lot sizes and adjust prices accordingly.

          If they left the prices the same, you would have a valid point.

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          • nathanjones008
            Magpride008
            • Nov 2006
            • 515

            #6
            Originally posted by Pacifist_Farmer
            What about the price increase tells you they don't care about making money? It tells me the exact opposite, there is not as much demand for their product so they reduce inventory, manufacture in small lot sizes and adjust prices accordingly.

            If they left the prices the same, you would have a valid point.
            What i mean is not careing about making money is first off there hasnt been any new products in 3-4 years( correct me if i am wrong). If they do not produce their chances of making$$ is slim. Second of all who is going to pay 481.00 for a rt(with all the other competition), you can get a rail or a mini for 400.00? Perphaps a very select few. since december for 2006 to present time the price has risen a given 130.00, Wow! When i say they do not care about making money is because no one(except a very select few) will buy their rt marker becacuse they do not compete( if they put out new products or markers the demand will go up) if they do not compete customers will not buy. Raising the prices ( a ridiculus) amount does not help the company.

            good point through.
            Last edited by nathanjones008; 05-23-2007, 10:30 AM.

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            • Chronobreak
              Rec Poster
              • Mar 2003
              • 5055

              #7
              Originally posted by nathanjones008
              What i mean is not careing about making money is first off there hasnt been any new products in 3-4 years( correct me if i am wrong). If they do not produce their chances of making$$ is slim. Second of all who is going to pay 481.00 for a rt(with all the other competition), you can get a rail or a mini for 400.00? Perphaps a very select few. since december for 2006 to present time the price has risen a given 130.00, Wow! When i say they do not care about making money is because no one(except a very select few) will buy their rt marker becacuse they do not compete, if they do not compete customers will not buy. Raising the prices ( a ridiculus) amount does not help the company.

              quality anyone?

              everyone else is having guns amde overseas in the thousands, agd doesnt sell enough or can afford to drop the quality with overseas manufacturing.

              new products?, tac one?, ult, im sure there are 1-2 more things as well as things AGD dealers have introduced. Just becasue there isnt an 07 mag doesnt mean there isnt anything new.

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              • ObieJ30
                Registered User
                • Mar 2007
                • 35

                #8
                go ahead and buy a mini and in 3 years when you cant find one part to it, you'll be wishing you had a mag.


                AGD all day everydaythats the bottom line. they could charge $600 and i'd still buy one

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                • rkjunior303
                  I need this more than you
                  • May 2003
                  • 4029

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chronobreak
                  quality anyone?

                  everyone else is having guns amde overseas in the thousands, agd doesnt sell enough or can afford to drop the quality with overseas manufacturing.

                  new products?, tac one?, ult, im sure there are 1-2 more things as well as things AGD dealers have introduced. Just becasue there isnt an 07 mag doesnt mean there isnt anything new.
                  The quality thing gets a bit old.

                  As for new products? When was the last time AGD came out with anything NEW, which was not a modification of something already existing?

                  A LONG Time.

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ObieJ30
                    go ahead and buy a mini and in 3 years when you cant find one part to it, you'll be wishing you had a mag.


                    AGD all day everydaythats the bottom line. they could charge $600 and i'd still buy one
                    Im pretty certain that won't be a concern. If I wish I had a mag... I'll have a mag.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • tech-chan
                      is the TKO of design.
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 875

                      #11
                      I wanna see a valve on the bottom of the marker, more of a stacked tube design...

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                      • Chronobreak
                        Rec Poster
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5055

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rkjunior303
                        The quality thing gets a bit old.

                        As for new products? When was the last time AGD came out with anything NEW, which was not a modification of something already existing?

                        A LONG Time.
                        im not sure what you expect from a company who already has a valve that performs the best possible given the itnended operations. only thing that could be improved or might be disliked is the velcoity fluctuations.

                        and quality thing gets old?....how many of the minis had problems out of the box, and dont eveng et me started on ions. While quality isnt the end all be all it certainly makes a difference as far as overall product life and performance.

                        but as i said lmk how these new guns are working in 10 years...o wait i forgot most of the people wont be playing still so it doesnt matter.

                        if you want a cheap generic electro go get one, but dont complainabout a better built gun costing more $

                        tech chan, i drew up a desighn for that a while back with the valve system mounted in the foregrip and the gun was feed from the top or in the back where the valve was previously mounted. I doubt there is any interest.

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                        • Lohman446
                          Useful posts: 7
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9315

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chronobreak
                          and quality thing gets old?....how many of the minis had problems out of the box, and dont eveng et me started on ions. While quality isnt the end all be all it certainly makes a difference as far as overall product life and performance..
                          Every marker I have ever gotten factory new has needed work otu of the box, mags, Ions, Shockers (except one), a Minion, and the minis. The only thing I have not ever had to play with to make work in the first couple weeks of use was a PM5.
                          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                          • zaqwert6
                            Nobody Special
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 108

                            #14
                            The base $355 IIRC , was a stripped down base single trigger RT. The current price reflects some of the optional upgrades the added to the old price , now no longer an option but standard.

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                            • tech-chan
                              is the TKO of design.
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 875

                              #15
                              tech chan, i drew up a desighn for that a while back with the valve system mounted in the foregrip and the gun was feed from the top or in the back where the valve was previously mounted. I doubt there is any interest.[/QUOTE]

                              I wanna see it, ive been working on one too.

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