Phantom surrender video???

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  • NewbieMagMan10988
    AO > Everything
    • Jul 2004
    • 580

    #1

    Phantom surrender video???

    Does anyone know where the vid of the guy surrender-ing the kid is? The kid shoots him, and phantom guy owns the kid and he cries, IIRC.

    I just cant find the link to save my life...

    Mike
  • AirAssault
    Those aren't pillows!!!!

    • Apr 2003
    • 1566

    #2
    Originally posted by NewbieMagMan10988
    Does anyone know where the vid of the guy surrender-ing the kid is? The kid shoots him, and phantom guy owns the kid and he cries, IIRC.

    I just cant find the link to save my life...

    Mike
    Ive seen it, the older dude should get kicked in the balls 5x for doing that. FFS the kid can't be more than 11-12 years old. Yes he should know better, and yes he should not of done it, but the older person, age unknown, should know better. If I was there and I saw the guy do it, he and I would be having an up close and personal conversation.

    here ya go. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GpQCxkwBp6I
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    • SummaryJudgement
      Selling stuff, good stuff.
      • Aug 2004
      • 1944

      #3


      That's hidious!



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      • maglover728
        Boomer!
        • Apr 2004
        • 1093

        #4
        Funny as all get out, but totaly uncalled for. He should have been sent packing and the kid needs a good talking to aswell.
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        • bentothejam1n
          Support our troops
          • Oct 2005
          • 1428

          #5
          kinda looks staged....

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          • Rudz
            Registered User

            • Apr 2005
            • 5087

            #6
            Originally posted by bentothejam1n
            kinda looks staged....

            nah the kid was crying
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            • Boden
              Automagnificent
              • Apr 2007
              • 11

              #7
              Yah, children should be alowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want, because... well because they are only kids. Old enough to play the game= Old enough to follow the rules.

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              • Papa_Smurf
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                • Sep 2006
                • 1531

                #8
                Originally posted by Boden
                Yah, children should be alowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want, because... well because they are only kids. Old enough to play the game= Old enough to follow the rules.

                Those are conflicting statements.

                If they can't follow the rules, they shouldn't play.

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                • Boden
                  Automagnificent
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Papa_Smurf
                  Those are conflicting statements.

                  If they can't follow the rules, they shouldn't play.
                  Sorry, I was being sarcastic in the first statement. It realy upsets me that some people let kids get away with anything, just because they are kids. Im glad you agreed with the point I was trying to make though, I thought I would get hung for speaking out against the "precious children".

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                  • bentothejam1n
                    Support our troops
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1428

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rudz
                    nah the kid was crying
                    i could do a pretty good fake cry when i was twelve...

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                    • maddboy32
                      get to the choppa!!!!

                      • Oct 2005
                      • 945

                      #11
                      to me the vid was to short to really know all the angles of the situation. but "our" rule of thumb where i play is: if someone has you "dead to rights" if you even look like your going to react in a hostel way, your clothes are getting a fresh color scheme no matter how old you are.

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                      • madcrisis
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 256

                        #12
                        that thing just will not load for me.............. ugh

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                        • AirAssault
                          Those aren't pillows!!!!

                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1566

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Boden
                          Sorry, I was being sarcastic in the first statement. It realy upsets me that some people let kids get away with anything, just because they are kids. Im glad you agreed with the point I was trying to make though, I thought I would get hung for speaking out against the "precious children".

                          So let me ask you, in that video which one was the real child? The older person was in his upper teens, no freakin way he should of shot the kid. The fact that you have the attitude you do, makes you just as big a jerk as the guy that pulled the trigger. Simple fact, most younger kids don't have the same pain threshold as older people. You know something that hurt you when you where a kid does nothing to you now. Point blank shot to the gut is total BS. The guy should of had his butt handed to him. Sorry, but he may as well smacked him in the head for all I care, same thing IMHO. He attacked an 11 year old, he's a big man.
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                          • Empyreal Rogue
                            Zetsubou Billy
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1103

                            #14
                            Honestly though, the kid has to have some idea of what he's getting himself into by playing Paintball. Yes it was an intentional shot at close range. However, 70% of the AO populace (Probably more than that actually) are 5+ year 'veterans', now tell me how many times on a daily basis you shoot or have been shot at that range UNINTENTIONALLY? Thinking back I know for a fact I need at least a 4th hand to count just the ones I can remember.

                            We don't know if the kid announced his surrender or not, but by the looks of it I'd say he didn't. When the older guy converges on him he keeps his marker trained on the guy and hunkers down. A person who surrenders holds up his marker and spare hand and starts to walk off. At every field I've ever played at and with every person I've played with, the rule has always been: You may fire until an official surrender is announced. If you fire after that then penalties will result.

                            Paintball is an unpredictable sport. We all know this from our years of experience, and most people can figure that out just by watching it. I'm not going to state whether or not I agree with what happened in this video, but I want to make a clear point that using the fact that the kid is young is NOT a good excuse. When I'm with or against children, I treat them as equally as any other player because that's how they need to be treated. If they want to play this sport, they have to handle how the sport is played. Some may see this as heartless or cruel, but I feel that it's respectful towards everyone.

                            When I played soccer in high school, as a freshman I got to start a few games. Games against seniors who had been playing the game so much longer than I and had at least 3-5 years on me. Did they go easy on me because of the age gap? You can bet your *** they didn't. Why should they? That's the sort of thing I expected when I went to soccer tryouts.

                            [edit]
                            Upon further inspection, it's clear by the sound (And the time between the two shots) that the first two shots were shot by the kid, who was already out according to the older guy. While I personally would not have shot back in the case of the older guy, I do think the kid got what he deserved. The kid was out and he kept shooting. How can you justify that? Because he's young? If you get a handball or tackle someone illegally in soccer, is that OK because you're young and new? Negatory.
                            Last edited by Empyreal Rogue; 06-15-2007, 10:27 PM.
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                            • Boden
                              Automagnificent
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AirAssault
                              So let me ask you, in that video which one was the real child? The older person was in his upper teens, no freakin way he should of shot the kid. The fact that you have the attitude you do, makes you just as big a jerk as the guy that pulled the trigger. Simple fact, most younger kids don't have the same pain threshold as older people. You know something that hurt you when you where a kid does nothing to you now. Point blank shot to the gut is total BS. The guy should of had his butt handed to him. Sorry, but he may as well smacked him in the head for all I care, same thing IMHO. He attacked an 11 year old, he's a big man.
                              So the attitude that if "your old enough to play paintball, your old enough to follow the rules" makes me a jerk? Please re-read my posts. I only mentioned the kid breaking the rules, and gave no opinion on how the other person reacted. I cant believe you would jump to that conclusion about someone you do not even know, lets be adults here.

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