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  • Pballwizz
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 626

    #1

    The Paintball "Marksman"

    DISCLAIMER: Its is 4 AM on the East Coast....I havent been sleeping very well and am coming out of a caffeine high.....keep this all in mind -Thank You

    The paintball sniper. How many of us can honestly say the idea has not passed through our minds, and to many, has not been a fantasy of which we have woven tapestries in our minds, of action packed recon missions, glorious long range shots, and unparralled accuracy which would tag an opponent in the goggles from two football fields away.

    Well thats utter poo poo!!!


    We all know a paintball sniper is impossible, and we have all read the threads, the articles and the countless lamentations of the guys who claim they have taken out whole teams with 10 rounds from 400 yards away with their 20" barrel.

    That being said, this is NOT a thread that is going to justify, disprove, or ARGUE about sniping.

    CLEAR ALL THOUGHTS OF SNIPING FROM YOUR HEAD!!!!


    ...

    Well kinda...

    What I want to bring up today is an idea that I have had. I do not take full credit for it, as Im positive others have discussed it, but perhaps have not made the idea widely know.
    What Im talking about is:

    THE PAINTBALL MARKSMAN!!!.......Not a sniper.....

    We all know that paintballs all travel the same speed

    That due to their structure, they are relatively inaccurate

    That FOR THE MOST PART all guns are as accurate as the next (PLEASE DO NOT ARGUE THIS!!!)

    What I present to you today is this idea:

    The paintball marksman, is a role on the field, in a squad based scenario.
    They do NOT work as lone wolfs, and have to work as a team just as much as any point, support, or rifleman.

    Most "marksman" would be equiped with a "spotter" (if you would) Mainly someone to watch their back from a postion, close by, that will allow them access to firing lines: both to be secured, and opened in case of a retreat.

    Even though, we all know paintballs and markers are rather inaccurate in the big scale of things, accuracy should be looked upon:
    Good paint to barrel match
    Quality Paint
    Gun being used (Once again, its all preferance, so please dont argue)

    That being said, this is not "One shot, One Kill"...If needed, multiple shots may be fired at a single target until an elimination is achieved. The trick is not reavealing your position...

    The "marksman" would act more as am ambusher, actually. Moving ahead, around, or behind the main squad, he would put himself in the position to shoot the opposing players, rather than wait for them. The trick would be, staying hidden, knowing your abilities, and being able to think on your feet.

    The "marksman" would have to work in conjunction with his squad (prefferably with a walkie talkie) so he would know the plan:
    Is his squad pushing his enemie into the marksman sights?
    Is he pushing them enemies into his squads sights?
    Are they pinching them?
    etc. etc.

    The bottomline is, is that he would act as your basic rifleman but would rely more on camoflauge and stealth and would not necesariy be used for eliminations, but moreso in conjunction with his squad: almost as a tool.

    Furthermore, these would not be long range shots.
    The focus would be on stealth, the causing confusion, thus causing openings of oppurtunity.
    Enemies could be engaged at extremely close ranges, or shots could be lobbed merely to mess with them......once again...somewhat like your basic rifleman.

    Overall, if done corectly, the "marksman" could be a valuable asset, to any woods/rec/scenario team.

    DISCLAIMER: Its is 4 AM on the East Coast....I havent been sleeping very well and am coming out of a caffeine high.....keep this all in mind -Thank You

    I will update this as I think more into it and better word my ideas!!!


    I apologize if I upset anyone with this.
    Furthermore, I often have times wording my ideas correctly through posts. I dont mean to cause ANY SORT OR ARGUMENT with this thread. I DO UNDERSTAND what I am talking about. It is just a tough idea to describe.

    Thanks for the read.

    -pballwizz
    Last edited by Army; 06-29-2007, 08:47 PM.
  • Lenny
    I AM the AO famous!
    • Dec 2003
    • 1628

    #2
    Wow. You sure you haven't smoked any crack either?
    Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
    ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

    Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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    • Marrr
      Registered User
      • Jan 2007
      • 86

      #3


      The best sentence - Moving ahead, around, or behind the main squad, he would put himself in the position to shoot the opposing players, rather than wait for them.

      I like it,thanks.

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      • PBI82
        Registered User
        • Mar 2007
        • 73

        #4
        the times i have snuck around to the oposing teams backs there have been amusing results. once after i got a couple people out they started yelling at me becuase they thought i was on their team it took me a few mins to get them to understand that i was on the other team.

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        • shartley
          paintball player
          • Mar 2001
          • 9169

          #5

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          • Pballwizz
            Registered User
            • Oct 2002
            • 626

            #6
            Meh, to each their own.l

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            • shartley
              paintball player
              • Mar 2001
              • 9169

              #7
              Originally posted by Pballwizz
              Meh, to each their own.l

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              CLICK HERE to Check out our PDU SERIES GEAR!


              its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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              • turbo chicken
                waiting for MY pump kit...
                • Mar 2006
                • 568

                #8
                Originally posted by Marrr
                The best sentence - Moving ahead, around, or behind the main squad, he would put himself in the position to shoot the opposing players, rather than wait for them.

                I like it,thanks.


                Almost mandatory if you play pump ... to be quite honest ... i don't want to be face to face with a whirlomatic paint slinger against me any my pump in the woods (usually results in me getting tagged)... infact id prefer if they didn't see me at all and to top that i'd prefer to surrender them by tapping their shoulder and calmly and quietly telling them that their out (and yell very loudly if playing speed ball)...

                either way ... but i'd have to say that first putting yourself into a position where you know noone will come up behind you and waiting for an ambush is sometimes a good thing if defending an item ... but if you trying to obtain said item ... WTF you waiting for???


                i like the idea of the "Marksman" but i think it needs a little more development ...

                even still ... i kinda like the specops definition of a paintball "sniper" ... i've got ADHD when it come to anything else but waiting in ambush next to a high traffic area is just calming for some reason ... i get more of a rush holding in my excitement and focusing it into extreme concentration to stay concealed ...

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                • PumpPlayer
                  TrojanMan on other boards
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 333

                  #9
                  I'm not a "sniper."

                  I prefer to think of myself more as a 'designated ninja.'



                  The thing with paintball is (and especially in scenario games), speed beats stealth every time.
                  In an environment where eliminations don't score you any points, he who moves the quickest to his objective will be the victor.
                  Before: "You're playing with WHAT?"
                  After: "Crap! It's that guy with the pump!"

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                  • geekwarrior
                    MIA
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2581

                    #10
                    the problem with a sniper or marksman, and pretty much the whole milsim idea is paintball is limited in range. A sniper or marksman generally gets his kills from a distance. Paintball is to limited in its distance to allows this.

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                    • iambored
                      I dare YOU to think!
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 463

                      #11
                      You sure you weren't suffering caffeine poisoning or misspelled codeine? Sounds weird. and alot like pb snipers already.

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                      • paintballfiend
                        I like pudding.
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 555

                        #12
                        Paintball: Serious business.

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                        • turbo chicken
                          waiting for MY pump kit...
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by turbo chicken
                          Almost mandatory if you play pump ... to be quite honest ... i don't want to be face to face with a whirlomatic paint slinger against me any my pump in the woods (usually results in me getting tagged)... infact id prefer if they didn't see me at all and to top that i'd prefer to surrender them by tapping their shoulder and calmly and quietly telling them that their out (and yell very loudly if playing speed ball)...

                          either way ... but i'd have to say that first putting yourself into a position where you know noone will come up behind you and waiting for an ambush is sometimes a good thing if defending an item ... but if you trying to obtain said item ... WTF you waiting for???


                          i like the idea of the "Marksman" but i think it needs a little more development ...

                          even still ... i kinda like the specops definition of a paintball "sniper" ... i've got ADHD when it come to anything else but waiting in ambush next to a high traffic area is just calming for some reason ... i get more of a rush holding in my excitement and focusing it into extreme concentration to stay concealed ...
                          of course i enjoy playing the designated idiot just as much ...there's nothing like making a sprint all the way across the field and causing a ruckus and causing a big distraction and wamo ... the rest of the team comes over the other side ...

                          Originally posted by PumpPlayer
                          I'm not a "sniper."

                          I prefer to think of myself more as a 'designated ninja.'



                          The thing with paintball is (and especially in scenario games), speed beats stealth every time.
                          In an environment where eliminations don't score you any points, he who moves the quickest to his objective will be the victor.
                          I like the 'Designated Ninja' phrase ....

                          and lets not forget that sometimes setting up to defend and item or hold a position is an objective at times and keeping people eliminated and off the field as much as possible contributes in the end as well ...

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                          • Tao
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 834

                            #14
                            The best sniper shots are when you are shooting at such an increadible distance; gun angled 45degrees into the air and everything, getting the ball almost there, bouncing a few times on the ground and breaking on his shoe

                            I haven't quite seen that extreme, but I have been shot in the shoe so many times after the ball bouncing off of the ground.

                            The best shot I was ever hit with was when I was in a fort which had 6 foot walls and a tower in the middle with 10 foot walls. One ricochet off the tower wall and hit me in the head. Basically arched over the 6 foot wall for a bank shot head shot It didn't break, but since it didn't break it had me wondering around confused for a bit because they hit so hard (especially in the head) when they don't break!

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                            • ThePixelGuru
                              Guru of Pixels
                              • May 2005
                              • 1461

                              #15
                              Yeah, no offense, man, but this has really been done to death. Hiding during games isn't exactly groundbreaking. And as soon as your "marksman" backup, he's just another frontman. Paintball positions are kind of pointless to me. Everyone's got a task to do, just go do it and stop worrying about semantics. I tend to play as sort of a stealthy frontman, sometimes passing up shots in favor of moving to a better angle unnoticed. I feel no need to give it a name, nor do I consider it a position. It's just how I play.

                              When I had my Tippy 98C with the Flatline I used some sniper-ish tactics, though. Mostly just lie down and spot people moving though my range. The shots often came from so far off they just had no idea where to look. I would shoot at people hidden from me, and they'd get confused and try to relocate and end up walking right into my sights.

                              Bottom line here is that they can't shoot what they can't see, so why be obvious if you don't have to be?

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