The Paintball "Marksman"

[mostpeople]

*Walks into thread*

*Laughs histerically and leaves*

[Army]

Sniping, is not the shot.

Sniping, is getting into the position to make the shot.

There is most absolutely sniping in paintball

[Ninjeff]

ive seen the "paintball sniper" used to great effect at the last scenario game i was at up at CPX.

One guy had a full on gillie suit and was lying right in the path of a squad, who apparently, figured there was nothing to be worried about and were just walking to find some prop. We had to defend the prop. As soon as these guys got in range of the "sniper" he rose up outta the ground like some crazy swamp thing and rocked their world.

Was it game winning? I dont know, we did defend the prop and got teh points. But that was a "whole team effort". But damn, it sure was cool.

[ThePixelGuru]

Snipe
verb [intrans.]
To shoot at someone from a hiding place.

There is most absolutely sniping in paintball

True that.

[FiXeL]

Snipe
verb [intrans.]
To shoot at someone from a hiding place.

True that.

Tiger rubin from webdog also covered this particular issue... The idea of paintball snipers is due to range a bit idiotic, but literally speaking we all snipe... When playing woods we ideally want to shoot from a concealed position right? Not always the case, but it gives you a advantage over your opponent.

Dressing up like a sniper with ghillie and gun with idiot length barrel is not for everyone, but if they want to, let them. It's their money and their paintball expierence, if they have a blast playing that role, then let them. A friend of mine plays woods with a stock class pump (phantom) and at first everybody on the field made fun of him because the rest was playing with semi's. Well, after a few months the mockery turned into respect, because he makes kills and even sneaks up on people, tapping them out on the shoulder.

It doesnt matter what you play with, all that matters is having fun!

[Ninjeff]

It doesnt matter what you play with, all that matters is having fun!

Amen.

Ive seen gillie suits used very very well before. Im thinking about getting one because i want to see what its like to play like that.

[ThePixelGuru]

Ive seen gillie suits used very very well before.

You mean like after the game's over and the guy wearing it can shake a whole case of paint out of it? Hah! I kid, I kid...

Seriously though, that's why I find these debates so weird. No one would ever shoot from an open, uncovered position if they could help it, and likewise you'd have to be pretty dumb to make yourself obvious in the woods when you could just as easily hide. And I'm pretty sure most of us focus on actually being able to hit things, too. Semantics and rhetoric isn't an advantage once you get on the field.

/Honestly, I'll let the topic die now.
//Maybe.

[Lenny]

Eh.

Call the guys decked out in ghillie's and camo "snipers" and let them call their guns "rifles". I don't care. It's all paintball. It's like woods vs. speed. Who cares? It's paintball.

[Glickman]

Eh.

Call the guys decked out in ghillie's and camo "snipers" and let them call their guns "rifles". I don't care. It's all paintball. It's like woods vs. speed. Who cares? It's paintball.

i think that might be a little different from woods vs. speed because no one, woods or speed enthusiasts like to be thought of as the stereotypical "gun-happy soldier wannabees"

i dont care enough to argue with those guys at the field, but they will definitely get giggled at quietly by everyone else at the field

[Nish Grout]

Marksman

There is a xmas tree farm that we sometimes play in around here and something like this works great there.

The guy that owns the property is out of shape and not getting any younger so what he often does is stay back be loud and obnoxious while one of us younger guys moves up off to the side of him, he attracts fire to himself, once you find the guy shooting at him, if you did it right you get your first few shots on a completely unaware victim who is out before he knows what is going on. You then more on to the next unlucky soul. This tactic has helped "the old fat guy" dominate his side on more than one occasion.

[rabidchihauhau]

Sniping as in extreme long range shots - no.

Sneaking around in the woods and firing from concealed positions - yes. In fact, up until about 90-91, that was the way everyone played (if you were any good).

Wearing a ghillie suit - ought to be outlawed. Its called "padding" and its also called 'too great an ability to conceal valid hits'. No, I am not accusing anyone who wears one of cheating. I am saying that its paintball and opportunities to cheat are usually taken advantage of by someone, somewhere. But, if you'd like, take out the second part and concentrate on the padding aspect. Why not allow everyone else to wear three or four layers of clothing? Better yet, just wrap 1/2 foam rubber sheets around your body under your cammo.

The problem with introducing this kind of thing successfully to a paintball game is that your average 'rifleman' is not limited by weight considerations in the amount of ammunition he/she carries, and everyone is armed not with an 'assault rifle' but with a squad automatic weapon that doesn't require a loader nor and greater degree of humping or setup than the standard issue weapon. Snipers work in the real world because the amount of time that it takes a squad to set-up, direct fire and start looking is more than enough time for the sniper to boogey. He takes out (wounds, preferably) one guy and makes the entire squad/platoon deploy. Meanwhile, he's off to the alternate hide. In paintball, as soon as word goes out, response fire ought to be immediate, and there is no need for the squad to 'deploy'; each player has enough fire power to accomoplish that individually. No one needs to or ought to 'go to ground' - just spray the likely locations and keep right on moving.

If you want to add more realistic relationships, you've got to simulate the weapon systems better. For every group of 12 players, you give them one semi-auto with a 100 round box mag and hang 50 lbs of lead off of it. Stick a bi-pod on it and don't allow it to be fired until its on the ground with bi-pod extended. The player humping the weapon is only allowed to carry 1 or 2 reloads; his loader is another player. All the rest of the players get stock pump guns and are allowed to carry say, 200 rounds max.

At that point, a single, 'sniping' player, with good concealment, can begin to play somewhat like a real sniper.

[Pballwizz]

Sniping, is not the shot.

Sniping, is getting into the position to make the shot.

There is most absolutely sniping in paintball

Aw, for a second, I thought you were agreeing with me....

haha, anyway, I knew a thread like this was going to draw a lot of criticism and mixed opinions; thats the fun of posting it.

As a lil background: This was just a theory my friend and I at the field were discussing. I have never done this, and....well....just forget it.

I forgot the internet is to be taken seriously

That being said, Id rather let this thread die.