G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[Chronobreak]

Well i just talked to garf for half an hr or so

new new real news, still working on this and that , manual isnt done, actuator is not done or placed in frame

lpr is not done or placed inside frame

still have to go to anno.

He said he does allow selling spots for those that want out so give hima call ocne you got a buyer.

in the words of hunter s thompson, i think im gonna have to " ride this strange torpedo out till the end" after waiting this long already.

[Smoothice]

How about he gives me a ing refund and he can sell the piece of spot himself!!!

[Twistedpsyche]

How about he gives me a ing refund and he can sell the piece of spot himself!!!

I'm with you on that!

[babyface]

The main problem I have with all of this is that he gave me the trigger geometry / actuator bullcrap in April, and then had told me he had already chosen which one to go with, so it was just a matter of time to get all of the right parts and get everything anno'd. Apparently he lied to me then too. I sold my spot in line but am still quite interested in all of this as I am going to make sure the person who purchased my spot in line doesn't get screwed by this con-artist.

your a good man shaun.

[insixdays777]

When is the one year anniversary of when we could first order? I cant even remember when I placed my order. Was is October of last year?

[TwilightG]

When is the one year anniversary of when we could first order? I cant even remember when I placed my order. Was is October of last year?

I think it was something like September or October.
I placed my order at the beginning of November and was told to expect it to ship @ the end of December.

I still have the first e-mail on November 30th stating that production has begun and to expect them by the end of December.

It won't be long before it's a full year since I ordered.

[Twistedpsyche]

We all ordered around the same time I assume. Oct/Nov ish. And like you said it was said it would be delivered in december. There was no info stating "this is still in the R&D stage". If there were we probably would not have bought them. I know I wouldn't have.

So a contract was entered in to. That contract has since been broken. We have the right to demand a refund and possibly more. 200ish dollars over 8 or 9 months at a modest 3% interest. Well you do the math. I'm pissed. I'm tired of excuses. The problem with demanding we get a product is he could send us a total piece of crap and start pulling excuses like "I told you I was trying to work out the bugs". We all and I mean ALL should be demanding our money back at this point. This is pathetic. I don't want to sell my place in line, I don't want another email saying "oh just finishing up and going to anno next week" BS. I want my money (and my ASA I sent him).

What does everyone else want?

[SummaryJudgement]

We all ordered around the same time I assume. Oct/Nov ish. And like you said it was said it would be delivered in december. There was no info stating "this is still in the R&D stage". If there were we probably would not have bought them. I know I wouldn't have.

So a contract was entered in to. That contract has since been broken. We have the right to demand a refund and possibly more. 200ish dollars over 8 or 9 months at a modest 3% interest. Well you do the math. I'm pissed. I'm tired of excuses. The problem with demanding we get a product is he could send us a total piece of crap and start pulling excuses like "I told you I was trying to work out the bugs". We all and I mean ALL should be demanding our money back at this point. This is pathetic. I don't want to sell my place in line, I don't want another email saying "oh just finishing up and going to anno next week" BS. I want my money (and my ASA I sent him).

What does everyone else want?

I want my frame............

"Buy the ticket, take the ride." (since we're quoting HST in this thread).

I will continue to wait. I am not happy about it though.............

[p8ntbal4me]

What does everyone else want?

I want my money back from G-Force or I want my working frame AND a life-time warrenty.

This crap has got to stop.

~ P8nt

[Twistedpsyche]

"Buy the ticket, take the ride."

See I disagree with that. This isn't a ride, or is not supposed to be. It's a transaction. I give you legal tender IE, money. You (Garf) give me product.

Unfortunately that's not what's going on. It's we give him money and we get dicked around for almost a full year. We're being too patient. If everyone and I mean EVERYONE would agree to write him an email on the same day demanding our money (and any parts we've sent) back.. it might actually happen. And if there are legal channels to go through. I'm sure Canada has their own version of the better business bureau or something. This is getting down right pathetic. I've been patient, but now I'm just plain pissed!!

[Hilltop Customs]

[TwilightG]

anyone know how many frames G-Force actually took money for?

He claims that there are a total of 100 frames being produced.

[Twistedpsyche]

maybe I'm the only one who thinks that it is extremely odd that they are given excuses about design issues? ie trigger geometry and other simple things that should have been taken care of in the design phase of the project, not six months after billing people.....design phase=before any customers had been charged.

EXACTLY!!

[Hilltop Customs]

so ~20grand on the line......its so sad that they are willing to get a bad business rep for this. Just think if they actually had decent service here, it might have led to more customers and repeat buyers. I highly doubt someone who ordered a frame will be buying from g-force again. By screwing the customer they are screwing themselves.....its hard to believe they cant see that.

[tech-chan]

Does anyone remember my preorder for hoodies? I am eternally shamed because of that one and hope that everyone has forgiven me and that company for it. If I ever do another order, it will be a real order. Where I buy samples, show you REAL pictures of the FINISHED product, and then and ONLY then will I consent to sell something to you. Thats how it should work, and hopefully, thats how it will work from now on.