G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[insixdays777]

Awesome...I would greatly appreciate the manual and I will STFU once I see it...All I want is some evidence and proof we are not getting ripped off. Heck, I really do want to be a G-force fanboy! I just need something to hang my hat on!

[Smoothice]

I am here to deliver news...not take and watch other aos get thrown under the bus for a simple opinion based on conversations from calling garf or having garf call for good faith updatess on the frames

Maybe you missed his post but he threw himself under the bus.

Awesome...I would greatly appreciate the manual and I will STFU once I see it...All I want is some evidence and proof we are not getting ripped off. Heck, I really do want to be a G-force fanboy! I just need something to hang my hat on!

exactly

[warbeak2099]

If you haven't spoken to Garf in 4 months, then call him now. I'm not going to make excuses for him, but it's pretty ridiculous to compare him to SEARS. He's running a small custom batch of Mag accessories. Yea, you do have to call to get the scoop. It's not unreasonable. In fact it's better than getting information from a message board. It's way more personal to talk to a live body.

Whatever, I'll be glad when we see the manual and you can grow up.

[Smoothice]

Whatever, I'll be glad when we see the manual and you can grow up.

Thanks mom. Me too.

[TnDeathInc]

at this point in the game how can you say good faith, good faith was the phone call i received in February that said they'd be ready in a few more weeks. Good faith is not Lying directly to my face (and 99 others) with that two week stuff when you are still tinkering with a prototype. Good faith is delivering on a schedule and keeping your word. good faith is me not being p/o'd until we are now 3 months away from us being 1 yr anniversery from actually ordering it.

wow it would take so long to click a few buttons in email to i dont know 100 people who ordered a product. Ill be glad for this to be over and never again order from gforce. heli or likewise.


G-Force = GA Devil IMHO

[warbeak2099]

G-Force = GA Devil IMHO

I can't wait for you to be proven wrong. You're already wrong as far as I'm concerned. Chris kind of shut down ALL LINES OF COMMUNICATION. And Garf is, oh ya, actually personally taking phone calls from customers. Hhhmmm, kind of a big difference. But there we go again with the ridiculous comparisons to GA Devil even though this situation is entirely different.

[Smoothice]

I can't wait for you to be proven wrong. You're already wrong as far as I'm concerned. Chris kind of shut down ALL LINES OF COMMUNICATION. And Garf is, oh ya, actually personally taking phone calls from customers. Hhhmmm, kind of a big difference. But there we go again with the ridiculous comparisons to GA Devil even though this situation is entirely different.

You act like you are the better man. If that was true you would just let TN post and wait for your frame. Then post up about it.

You are on a one man crusade with little to no proof.

What I find so funny is 2 days ago you were singing a VERY different tune.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2549052&postcount=1453

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2549133&postcount=1455

[TnDeathInc]

You act like you are the better man. If that was true you would just let TN post and wait for your frame. Then post up about it.

You are on a one man crusade with little to no proof.

What I find so funny is 2 days ago you were singing a VERY different tune.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2549052&postcount=1453

http://www.automags.org/forums/showp...postcount=1455

smoothice just won the internet

[warbeak2099]

You act like you are the better man. If that was true you would just let TN post and wait for your frame. Then post up about it.

You are on a one man crusade with little to no proof.

What I find so funny is 2 days ago you were singing a VERY different tune.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2549052&postcount=1453

http://www.automags.org/forums/showp...postcount=1455

I said "if". I didn't think it was a scam but I wanted people to call to make sure. Did anyone? I e-mailed Garf and called him. Andrew Cunje has been communicating with him via telephone. Have any of you other guys called within the past week? Or are you just speculating and pulling stories out of your rear end? Little to no proof? Where is yours? I'd like to see your evidence that you have obtained when it is quite obvious that you haven't called the guy and confronted him about your concerns.

Here's the number:
905-477-1338

Man up and call. Otherwise, don't whine?

[Smoothice]

Little to no proof? Where is yours? I'd like to see your evidence that you have obtained when it is quite obvious that you haven't called the guy and confronted him about your concerns.

You want my proof?

Here it is:



This mag has sat without a GFORCE frame since December.

What other proof do I need to produce that I still don't have my frame?

How about I dig up the Gforce pnuemag pic thread I started? Its probably on page 30 by now.

[trevorjk]

has the waffle been sitting there as well?

[Smoothice]

has the waffle been sitting there as well?

Thats my egomag.

Mice ate it. Along with my faith in preorders.

[warbeak2099]

You want my proof?

Here it is:


This mag has sat without a GFORCE frame since December.

What other proof do I need to produce that I still don't have my frame?

How about I dig up the Gforce pnuemag pic thread I started? Its probably on page 30 by now.

That's a wonderful picture. Called Garf yet or are you still making claims based on you being upset that you don't have a frame yet? Emotion =/= proof or even evidence. I'm upset too, but I'm staying in contact with Garf. If you want the full scoop, I suggest you stop guessing and making up stories.

[Smoothice]

That's a wonderful picture. Called Garf yet or are you still making claims based on you being upset that you don't have a frame yet? Emotion =/= proof or even evidence. I'm upset too, but I'm staying in contact with Garf. If you want the full scoop, I suggest you stop guessing and making up stories.

Why can't you understand this? It seems so simple.

I have spoken with Garf before. Did everything he tell me come true? NO!

What is going to be different this time?

What would a phone call proove? That he still answers his phone? BIG DEAL!

I want my frame not a romantic chat with Garf.

Please answer my above questions. Don't just post more nonsense.

[warbeak2099]

Why can't you understand this? It seems so simple.

I have spoken with Garf before. Did everything he tell me come true? NO!

What is going to be different this time?

What would a phone call proove? That he still answers his phone? BIG DEAL!

I want my frame not a romantic chat with Garf.

Please answer my above questions. Don't just post more nonsense.

It proves that he isn't Chris from Devil's Den. It proves that he is continuing communication with his customers. Does it suck that he did a pre-order without having the product ready to build? Yea it was a stupid decision and a huge mistake. Is it probable that he ran away with our money or is not actually making the frame? No, that's a pretty far out conclusion considering the fact that he is keeping lines of communication open.

The point is that he has made mistakes that will prevent most of us from ever entering into a pre-order again. But he is not some scammer. It's obvious that he is actually working on the frames, he just bit off more than he could chew. And yes, he should be held responsible for making that mistake. But it's ignorant to charge him with running away with our money when you can still get on the line and talk to him. The second he shuts down and runs, I will be right next to you calling for blood. But he hasn't done that, communication is everything. It's what sets him apart from GA Devil.

Like I said though, I'm going to be ecstatic when we get the manual and when I get my tracking number so I can put these childish conspiracy theories to rest.