Universal T-Board: Group Buy

[darqueMeye]

i would be interested in the ep install unless you are willing to offer a how to for us "do it yourself" kinda guys. i either want to do it in an i frame or my hyperframe. i kinda like the idea of having both the hyperframe and an ep frame.

put me down for a UTB and capacitor, no eyes. i think ill try and install it myself.

[ajnin]

I have this board in my hyperframe.... its pretty awesome.
Money well spent in my opinion. And as stated the capacitor is very needed if your gonna use teh hyperframes pancake noid, I had mine setup at first without it, but you definalty notice a need for it once you start pulling the trigger fast.

I would love to hear what other options there would be instead of the pancake noid or ep.

[p8ntbal4me]

*** UPDATE ***

The sale on the first order of boards & parts will close March 30th 2008 (thats a Sunday)

On March 31st 2008 (thats a Monday) I will be ordering the boards when I get home from work.

If you want a board & your name is on the list, PM me your information using the following:

AO Name:
BEO Name:
# or UTBs ordered:
Colored Eyes? (yes/no)
*if yes: list color here ->
Capacitor? (yes/no)

Real Name:
Paypal Address:
Shipping Address:

** Paypal address is required. In the event of you using someone elses paypal address, please make a note of it in your PM. If the paypal address is different that the shipping address, I will use the shipping address PM'ed to me. **

[p8ntbal4me]

*** UPDATE ***


For those that were reading up on the TUNABALL II thread here on the AO & BEO:

There will be a raffle for ALOT of great prizes!!!!

I will be offering a FREE Scenario Dreams Universal T-Board & FREE install to the winner in one of 2 options:

A Hyperframe Install

or

An EP frame Install

The winner will give me their information @ Tunaball II. I will provide all labor of the install as well as all electronic parts based on the install of their choice. (milling is extra, not included)

This is only one of the MANY prizes offered this year!!!!

Hope you guys can make it!!

~ P8nt

[mostpeople]

p8nt, if we want an EP install.. how did you want us to do that? Shall we order the parts now, or wait till later.. (im confusiated!!)

[p8ntbal4me]

p8nt, if we want an EP install.. how did you want us to do that? Shall we order the parts now, or wait till later.. (im confusiated!!)

I'll clear you up then!!

Those of you that order a board from me now will earn credit of the board purchase at a later date in the even you wish to have me do an install on your frame.

There is a few issues with that though. In the event that you buy a board from me and do your own install,.. but dont get it to work,... and you wish for me to fix or re-do the work,.. the cost for labor PLUS extra parts will be charged. Heres an example below:

You buy a board from me today
You do the install on your Pneumag frame yourself
You cant get it to work so you send it to me
I start the install, and find that you cant use your existing wire harness because you cut the wires too short to aid with the install.
I have to charge you for a new wire harness + shipping.
You want a 26+bps conversion done but your solenoid only cycles a max of 18bps. I have to charge you for a new solenoid.
You send a valve to me that isnt tuned/working. I cant test the gun before it leaves my hands, so I test it with one of my valves, PM you about the problem, and ship it as is.

Thats just one case,... but I can see some others as well.

I would like to arrange to have the markers sent into me as COMPLETE units so I can test them and video tape them as working BEFORE they leave my hands. That way you know its comming back to you in the condition you paid for.

The EP conversions are not going to be cheap. The milling will be the most costly though,.. and that all depends on your taste for what you want your marker to do.

My busy season starts next week guys,.. so there will be a lack of mid-week traffic from me on here,... look for answers on the weekends.

~ P8nt

[darqueMeye]

what noid's are you referring to? (18 and 26) So i know what to look for when i get the UTB.

[p8ntbal4me]

what noid's are you referring to? (18 and 26) So i know what to look for when i get the UTB.

The SMC S070 solenoid used in most Ego-framed Mag conversions is what I call the 15-18bps solenoid. Taking this solenoid BEYOND 18bps in my testing over a period of time proves to destroy it due the the strains on its cycle time & lack of maximum operating pressure.

The solenoids that I had made are the 26bps versions. They are the same ones as used in my EP video,.. but are now shorter in length. They WILL cycle a Mag @26bps. They also sport a much higher pressure. Down side is the solenoid is expensive.

The 15-18bps solenoid can be purchased on ASP or thru myself.

The 26bps solenoid can only be purchased through me.

~ P8nt

[Artimis]

^--- how expensive is "expensive"? Do you have a picture of what this solenoids look like? You have definitley sparked my curiosity.

[p8ntbal4me]

^--- how expensive is "expensive"? Do you have a picture of what this solenoids look like? You have definitley sparked my curiosity.

I call $58 dollars expensive.

Thats a guess,.. dont hold me to it.

Maybe thats not too bad,.. but then add in milling, and electronic parts,.... yada yada.

Then the price gets up there quick!

I dont have a target price yet,.... Im still working on the milling diagrams (which I just started)

~ P8nt

[darqueMeye]

The SMC S070 solenoid used in most Ego-framed Mag conversions is what I call the 15-18bps solenoid. Taking this solenoid BEYOND 18bps in my testing over a period of time proves to destroy it due the the strains on its cycle time & lack of maximum operating pressure.

The solenoids that I had made are the 26bps versions. They are the same ones as used in my EP video,.. but are now shorter in length. They WILL cycle a Mag @26bps. They also sport a much higher pressure. Down side is the solenoid is expensive.

The 15-18bps solenoid can be purchased on ASP or thru myself.

The 26bps solenoid can only be purchased through me.

~ P8nt

so maybe i should throw one of those into my order. lmk how much...

[Hilltop Customs]

is that solenoid barbed, manifold, or screw in? any power usage info? Might be interested in one to try out.

You can put me down for one of the UTB's with some blue eyes....dont need a cap. I was hoping to get a few of the UTB's, but money is limited right now.


since you have experience with the SMC S070, have you ever had one leak off the bat? I started at no pressure and basically as soon as I got any pressure through the lpr it started.

P.S. I got the eyes to work how I told you, the range didnt seem to be a problem after I drilled the body out to 3mm. Unfortunately they look nasty; the eye holders look bluky, even when made as thin as possible. So I'm reverting to led/phototransistor in the body just like regular eyes and low profile eye covers only other option would be to slot the body

[p8ntbal4me]

is that solenoid barbed, manifold, or screw in? any power usage info? Might be interested in one to try out.

It is a ported solenoid (screw in) but a manifold could be made simply with some time.

You can put me down for one of the UTB's with some blue eyes....dont need a cap. I was hoping to get a few of the UTB's, but money is limited right now.

Your in!

since you have experience with the SMC S070, have you ever had one leak off the bat? I started at no pressure and basically as soon as I got any pressure through the lpr it started.

I have not had one with that problem as of yet.

One thing that I do like with my ability to order factory direct with the solenoids is I can test them after I receive them (hook up the LPR and cycle them) and send them back for a new one if they dont work within 7 days.

If I was to build a gun for you,.. the solenoid would be working 100% before it shipped (obviously). If they send me a junk solenoid,... they replace it.

P.S. I got the eyes to work how I told you, the range didnt seem to be a problem after I drilled the body out to 3mm. Unfortunately they look nasty; the eye holders look bluky, even when made as thin as possible. So I'm reverting to led/phototransistor in the body just like regular eyes and low profile eye covers only other option would be to slot the body

You know,.. when we talked about this,... I had another idea you could try. Mouser sells flat LEDs and optical receviers (like the ones on the new DMs or Mini). Those are rather flat and come in multicolor spectrum.

[Hilltop Customs]

Any chance we could get a pic of the noid to see where the ports are and the overall size? Ported sounds great, would be my choice out of the three!


I think I know the LEDs your talking about....they have a square base(I think they are used on newer angels). I was going to try them, but after reading about them over on PBN, they seemed to have very limited range. I'll have to check my Mouser catalog and see what they have listed for specs.

[p8ntbal4me]

Any chance we could get a pic of the noid to see where the ports are and the overall size? Ported sounds great, would be my choice out of the three!

The solenoid measures: 35.3mm in length by 8.0mm in width by 16.0mm in height.

They also sport a 150psi input pressure. The little SMC S070 are far less than that.

I think I know the LEDs your talking about....they have a square base(I think they are used on newer angels). I was going to try them, but after reading about them over on PBN, they seemed to have very limited range. I'll have to check my Mouser catalog and see what they have listed for specs.

From what I understand, you can use any LED you want on one side, its the optical pickup side that will be the issue.

The way I figured it: with a little time spent in measuring it all out and getting someone to machine the holes exactly, it can be done like you were thinking. Your way would prove very wise for ULE owners that want to take their body apart and clean it at the end of the day.

~ P8nt