Venomous Designs Evolution Grips

[Mongoose]

Mongoose and i came to an agreement and i will be making the parts. He will post the timeline soon.

The most important thing for us is to finish all our projects and get everyone the parts they were promised.

XMT and I have worked everything out and a timeline is being established now....i will post up when everyone can expect there parts. Also if anyone would like to skip the anno process and have there parts shipped raw i will give a discount on those parts. please note that some parts are currently at anno and this option will not be given for those parts.
This offer is for anyone that does not want to wait any longer and wishes to have them done themselves.

I have decided to design and make a very small run of "Special Edition Snatch Grips" these will not be sold and instead will be given out to all of our customers who have painfully stuck by us......to all of you who are still waiting on parts.

I'd also like to Publicly Apologize to Big Evil and BEO........Whats happening here should in no way be a reflection on them or their Site! Sorry guys for dragging you all through the mud.

Tuna: Your in my prayers for a speedy and healthy recovery!!

[Wrathbringer]

Mongoose and i came to an agreement and i will be making the parts. He will post the timeline soon.

Xmag,

Thank you for resolving this with Mongoose! I think I speak for everyone when I say that we just want to see this project finished and I'm very glad you've taken the steps to make that happen.

Here's to hoping there are no more hiccups with this!

-Wrathbringer

[Xmagterror]

Actually..

XMT posted up that he was owed money for the machining and wasnt going to do anymore more until he got paid.

VD came back at him and said that it was all BS and laid the blame on XMT

XMT came back, then took down his posts

People started asking VD about refunds etc.

VD pulled his posts and failed to contact anyone.

Yet another FUBAR preorder on AO.

Mongoose and i came to an agreement and i will be making the parts. He will post the timeline soon.

[hill160881]

So including this thread, the AO community is owed thousands? Good thing it's just 50 bucks for me. If I was owed a expensive body or such I would have this guy in hot water with the authorities.

Considering how broke I am right now it really me off. I am selling everything I have to get caught up. So screw this guy and xmt. A pissing match over this much money? If principle was any concern one of them would get things done for the AO community.

[bumbabeef]

I don't think were ever going to get a response from this guy. I've emailed him twice, left a message on this thread, Pmed on here and on facebook and yet not one reply

[knownothingmags]

Actually..

XMT posted up that he was owed money for the machining and wasnt going to do anymore more until he got paid.

VD came back at him and said that it was all BS and laid the blame on XMT

XMT came back, then took down his posts

People started asking VD about refunds etc.

VD pulled his posts and failed to contact anyone.

Yet another FUBAR preorder on AO.

yeah thats better then what i had posted.

[OPBN]

recap,

he was defending his side,
said he would pay xmt the 200$,
said he would not pay for tooling or keeping machines running.

Actually..

XMT posted up that he was owed money for the machining and wasnt going to do anymore more until he got paid.

VD came back at him and said that it was all BS and laid the blame on XMT

XMT came back, then took down his posts

People started asking VD about refunds etc.

VD pulled his posts and failed to contact anyone.

Yet another FUBAR preorder on AO.

[knownothingmags]

I missed his post, anyone got a recap but wont start a flame going?

recap,

refer to OPBN post better then i can recall.

[kcombs9]

Just incase some didn't notice Mongoose came on and removed his latest posts from this thread today. He is also still avoiding contacting me about the money/parts he owes me. I'm going to take a wild swing and say no one else got a response on their refund either.

I missed his post, anyone got a recap but wont start a flame going?

[knownothingmags]

Just incase some didn't notice Mongoose came on and removed his latest posts from this thread today. He is also still avoiding contacting me about the money/parts he owes me. I'm going to take a wild swing and say no one else got a response on their refund either.

correct.
same for me.

[Spazmok]

Just incase some didn't notice Mongoose came on and removed his latest posts from this thread today. He is also still avoiding contacting me about the money/parts he owes me. I'm going to take a wild swing and say no one else got a response on their refund either.

[Spazmok]

BOTTOM LINE is we are waiting on YOU not me.

Pretty sure I'm waiting on you to reply and for my refund...

[knownothingmags]

i would say this is a bad situation for both people.

bad mouthing a machinist for the mag community not good, he makes great stuff that is great looking and has great funtionality. he has always done great work for AO community.

the fact that mongoose still owes people like my self for one, (and that is the only person i can speak for) and the parts owed to me were stuff i was told was in stock and have been paid for in full, and were parts that were not needed to be made.

so the issue with xmt is not mongoose's only concern.

like i have said before i consider the parts owed to me a lost cause.but would still like to have what i paid for, or the value of the parts refunded.

dont get me wrong the ideas mongoose had were great, but he should have looked into having the money for his producer before he got in over his head. if you ran out of money to pay people just say so, dont start pointin the stink finger at the only person who has been supplying your ideas to the community in the form of parts, that you should be pay for in full before items were even considered to be made. that is is how it is whith any good machine shop.

my thoughts,
KNM

[Ando]

Both of you need to **** or get off the pot.

[AO Moderation Team]

Intresting

Here it is: im tired of trying to not throw XMT under the bus but after his bull statement i cant resist.

He has been issued a C & D letter and is not allowed to make or sell any of our unlicensed parts. he was told to destroy all of our files and if you purchased any of our parts from him...they are blems as far as we know!

I will contact a new machinist right away......sorry for all the delays.

We would guess that is why he all of a sudden posted then proceeded to delete all his posts.

UPDATE:

XT CUSTOMS will not be machining any more parts for Venomous designs. They cant pay their bill for the V1 grips i shipped them AUG of 2011....almost a year.
NO MONEY NO PARTS..........ITS THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!

Well i see XMT went through and deleted his posts, or a mod did to keep this from becoming a flame fest.

Ya we saw that also, whats up with THAT.