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  • MagMaster2
    Registered User
    • Dec 2001
    • 23

    #1

    new ultraslick barrel idea?

    Someone has probably already thought of this before but here goes. you have a normal aluminum barrel but the inside is bored out to a larger size and a sleve of some ultraslick material be it delrin or whatever. is inserted. Then the extra slickness of the delrin would help reduce the operating pressure of the gun by creating less friction. Also this would probably reduce ball breaks greatly due to reduced friction. Also if you ever get a nasty scratch on the inside of the barrel you could just remoove the sleave and insert a new one. Wheras with a normal barrel you would have to get it honed and reanodized
    The only drawback I can think of is the delrin not being strong enough??? please post your thoughts and poke holes in it all you want. I think it could work but tell me if I'm wrong.
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  • Minimag4me
    Registered User
    • Jul 2001
    • 779

    #2
    I dont think delrin would work. I dont like the idea of plastic barrels at all. Anodized alluminum is pretty slick itself. I would like to see replacible sleves like you said for the scratch thing but the freak already pretty much did that.
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    • MagMaster2
      Registered User
      • Dec 2001
      • 23

      #3
      The barrel would not be made out of delrin only the inner sleve which would be maby 0.7 mm thick the barrel would still be aluminum. Just like how an engine block is aluminum but the cylinder has a steel sleve in it. Also the freak only lets you change the back 5" of the barrel this would allow you to swap the whole thing.
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      • J
        Light me up
        • Jul 2001
        • 303

        #4
        I heard derlin swells with high friction and heat so on a hot day or just firing fast, the bore might get tighter. I could be wrong tho
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        • Miscue
          Super Moderator

          • Oct 2000
          • 7105

          #5
          Teflon... it's been done. Brass barrels are good too.

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          • MagMaster2
            Registered User
            • Dec 2001
            • 23

            #6
            I don't think that you are right about delrin swelling. I mean they use it to make bolts so it has to be able to withstand high friction.

            By the way miscue. which barrel did they use teflon in?
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            • PBpunk
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              • Jan 2002
              • 78

              #7
              i think that its the 32* carbon fiber that has the teflon coating or something
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              • Rynoboy06
                Paintball Gholam
                • Jul 2001
                • 394

                #8
                Maybe it's on that one too, but I'm pretty sure it's just the J&J ceramic that has teflon in it.
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                • thei3ug
                  Canicus
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 846

                  #9
                  Delrin barrels have been tried.

                  Delrin is sensitive to temperature and moisture. At the very best you will not get a consistant bore size through and through at any given time. In normal conditions... it's a blender.
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                  • trevy38
                    The Son of a Mother
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 55

                    #10
                    I always spray Tri-flo (dry oil made of teflon) in my barrel and give it one quick swab. It shoots very well that way and minimizes ball breakage.
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                    • paint king
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 384

                      #11
                      types.......

                      The J and J barrels have a wierd inner coating but whatever it is it shoots nice.

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                      • MagMaster2
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 23

                        #12
                        Where can you get this tri flow stuff?!!?

                        It sounds very useful.
                        Powerfeed 68 Automag
                        12" Jacko Infinity Series Barrel
                        18" Big Daddy Barrel
                        Benchmark double trigger
                        benchmark gas thru foregrip
                        Aci bulldog II 68/3000 fiber tank
                        Custom drop foreward
                        ZAP Mach 404 loader

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                        • animal

                          #13
                          The j&j ceramics are teflon coated inside. It also helps, I've been told, to apply rain-x to your barrel. Supposedly you can fire the paint right out. Never tried this personally though.

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                          • thei3ug
                            Canicus
                            • Oct 2000
                            • 846

                            #14
                            Rain-X = teflon.

                            coating the barrel with teflon won't help it shoot BETTER or FARTHER or reduce friction lowering operating pressure or anything of the sort. It will, however, allow you to shoot through breaks easier, as the paint beads up and can't, for lack of a simpler term, stick to the sides. When that's an issue, teflon is a godsend. What teflon isn't is a magical barrel enchanter, here to whisk your paintballs on a flight with destiny.

                            I didn't touch on this, but I just read the ENTIRE thread. Also, the carbon fiber barrel may have teflon on it, but it doesn't matter because the ball never touches the carbon fiber.
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                            • thei3ug
                              Canicus
                              • Oct 2000
                              • 846

                              #15
                              Same with that J&J 2-piece barrel.

                              The end might have "teflon impregnated ceramic," but the ball never touches it. Whoopidedoo.

                              those X-people who are making the plastic barrel tips have the best idea. Why let the end of the 2 piece take up so much weight if you're not really using it? let's make it out of plastic!
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