Technical Roundtable Forum

[AGD]

AO,

The recent interest in the discussion surrounding the Wicked Air Sports claims on their new replacement board for the Timmy has sparked the creation of this forum. Many people thought it would be a good idea to have a "Consumer Reports" type forum where products could be evaluated by people with the knowledge to separate hype from fact.

My plan here is to invite a small group of highly knowledgeable members to dissect and comment on manufacturers claims for their products. The forum is named after the Arthurian Round Table where the best knights were assembled to discuss issues at hand.

I will chair the Table but not comment because I am biased as a manufacturer. I will set limits and control the tone of the forum so it does not get out of hand. Likewise other manufacturers are excluded from the Table.

Manufacturers are invited to comment and rebut comments made here and to provide data where necessary. Products to review will be submitted by forum members only.

I don't expect this forum to be active on a daily basis so I will stick a post in Paintball Talk when something hot is going on. My first three suggestions for Round Table members are Cledford, Miscue and Redkey. Any other members AO thinks are worthy should be suggested in posts below.

As usual we are trying something new here on AO so lets all work to make this a success. The only thing that can come out of this is better products for players.

AGD

[luke]

How about, Butterfingers and manike.

[TRIAD]

Jack and Coke did a nice test on hopper speeds, he may be valuable.

[cledford]

I second...

Butterfingers and Manike.

-Calvin

[ShooterJM]

Re: I second...

Originally posted by cledford
Butterfingers and Manike.

-Calvin

Agreed.

From Deep Blue posts, other forums and PM's I'd like to nominate nicad.

EDIT: I second the Have Blue nomination as well. Same reasons (sans PM) as above.

[beam]

Have Blue

[DiRTyBuNNy]

I vote me..well..because no one has ever wanted me for anything and I don't have any qualifications other than the fact that I'm poor because I buy everything even if it is total junk just to beat the hell out of it so i can tell people that it really is a piece of junk. Amen.

I can be the official Technical Roundtable "TEST MONKEY"!!!!


(btw, Thanks Bad_Knees)

[AGD]

Manike and Butterfingers are invited, do you accept? Have Blue manufactures his own stuff for Tribals so that might cause a conflict.

AGD

[MagDog68]

How about Mr. Bill Mills?

~Fred

[Havoc_online]

Hmmm.... I think I should of read BlackVCG's name but I did'nt.....he's my friend, Kayle may have given him a big kiss on the cheek but he is still on the level

[DiRTyBuNNy]

I also don't think any of the mods should be on the technical roundtable because they have enough to do without putting more work on their desks (unless they want to..then it's their decision)

[beam]

How about Jeffremiller and 314159 ?

[nippinout]

If we exclude ALL manufacturers due to a conflict of interest, we may be missing out on a lot of expertise.

Have Blue, although he makes goods for the Tribal, he has excellent knowledge of electronics. And as a mechanical engineer, he would make an excellent member of the round table. And he has a pressure transducer thingy and high speed photography equipment available. :)

There is a conflict of interest, but he manufactures for the Tribal. I don't see THAT much conflict here.


I would also like Tom to ask Curt of KM2 to the Round Table.

KM2 makes aftermarket boards, which is a conflict of interest. But Curt has a broad range of expertise. Like Have Blue, Curt is a mechanical engineer. As Curt put it, he just happened to get a computer science degree.

Curt is a uber-coder/electronics guru.

These two gentlemen may have conflicts of interest, but they are also very accomlished in their respective fields. If we exclude them, we would be missing a wealth of brain power.


Another great member would be manike. AGAIN, another mechanical engineer. And he makes pretty CAD models. :)

manike has great expertise in loaders, feed technology, and patents. He may not be as 1337 at coding, but manike would be an excellent contributor.

I hold these three gentlemen in high regard. I have grown to have great respect for them and their skills over the 2 years or so that I have known them (well, know them online).

Well, what do you guys think?

Wait, has anyone asked billmi? Bill is a bright guy with electronics skills. Maybe not ereet, but he has been testing equipment and over the years, Warpig.com seems to have grown to love data acquisition equipment for testing. :)

[Butterfingers]

I accept,

Im not really a manufacturer but rather a techie for Don. I play absolutely no part in making the products we sell.

I will hold my word, unless a question is directed to me by a member I will refrain from posting anything concerning products I am involved in.

I most strongly support the nomination of bill mills and the warpig crew.

I second the nomination for Curt of KM2 and Have Blue and 314159. Providing they follow the guidelines.

[BlackVCG]

I think if we try to exclude manufacturers, it will be removing A LOT of knowledgable people from this forum and we'll have to do it in a biased manner. The majority of the people out there that have access to equipment to find accurate empirical data are involved with a manufacturer of some sort or make their own products for paintball.

With that I don't think anyone should be excluded based upon their involvement in the paintball industry whatever it may be. If someone is going to do a test, they're going to have to explain how they did it, show their data and back do it well enough to convince the rest of the forum members. We all know damn well that WAS hasn't done any tests or accurate ones for that matter to prove his products can do what they claim. I think everyone that will be a member of this forum is smart enough to see through a manufacturers bias.

-Stephen