No mag = No level 10......... But how well would this work?

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  • BenD
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 94

    #1

    No mag = No level 10......... But how well would this work?

    well the person who said you do your best thinking on the can hit the nail on the head and drove it a foot into the board.....

    So I run out of TP and take off the thing that holds the TP...

    I notice it slides back in fourth....

    What if you made a bolt like that.... so if it hits something in it's path the front half slides back into the main part of the bolt, and the air is let off.

    Could it work?


    Here are some pictures to go with...
    Help me! :)
  • BenD
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 94

    #2
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    • BenD
      Registered User
      • Feb 2002
      • 94

      #3
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      • BenD
        Registered User
        • Feb 2002
        • 94

        #4
        that last one was kinda worth less.

        last one here... also as the front part slid back, there could be a release pressure hole in the top of the bolt that gets opened as the front part slides back, and who knows you could have it go into a hose to up to your hopper to have air assist.... so when you jam a ball it gives your hopper a puff of air for help

        what you people think...

        any chance?

        I know there are flaws, and am thinking through them as I fall asleep (and have a few, so if you find one tell me and i might already tell you how, and show you a better picture.)



        Thanks a lot
        Help me! :)

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        • 314159
          Registered User
          • Nov 2001
          • 555

          #5
          yeah that would work,

          you would need to make the bolt head out of something with a little bit of weight behind it (not derlin) to avoid blowback problems.

          just rember there is an equal and opisite force pushing the front of the bolt back.
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          • Top Secret
            IPR's E-Maggot
            • Jun 2001
            • 601

            #6
            Seems somewhat similar to the idea I had about modifying my stock cocker bolt to be similar to the new anitpinch bolt. The issue it would have is it requires a spring that won't chop the balls, but still have enought force to hold the bolt forward when the air is released without causing blowback.
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            • BenD
              Registered User
              • Feb 2002
              • 94

              #7
              there are like 20 billion different weighted springs, and sizes.....

              I got metal shop enxt semester, mabye I'll give it a try....

              If you could find a spring that would give if it came in contact with an object which wouldnt move (like a ball half way in the tube) but wouldnt give if the object gave way... then it should work ok..
              Help me! :)

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              • vf-xx
                Henchmen Inc.
                • Nov 2001
                • 3311

                #8
                isn't the cocker anti chop bolt for the cocker like that?

                I do like the idea of having it vent to an air assist.

                One thing you need to make sure of is some way to connect the front piece to the back piece so it wont' go flying. having the front piece go flying out could be really really bad. (just ask some superbolt I owners.)
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                • Person
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 516

                  #9
                  that doesnt look half bad. looks like a lot of trail and error to get it to work. it will not be hard at all to make the front of the bolt stay in.
                  "I'll see it when I believe it"

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                  • Vegeta
                    Moderator? Mob Boss.
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1050

                    #10
                    The problem I see here is simple:

                    an object at rest tends to stay at rest. an object in motion tends to saty in motion.

                    when the back part of the bolt starts to move, the spr9ing is going to absorb a load of energy comign off hte back part of hte botl moving foward, there for the back part of the bolt will start moving, but hte front wont right away. Then the enitre bolt travel the front will be depressed in a bit. When the bolt stops the front end on the spring will keep movign forward as hte rear sarts to move back, reversing hte whole thing. Now hte front is sticking out a bit from it's normal position. So the spring is creating 'lag' in the bolt. Some people will say this can be stopped by addign a stiffer spring, but a stiffer sprign will break paint.


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                    • BenD
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 94

                      #11
                      so how do we get around the problem vegeta?
                      Help me! :)

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                      • Person
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 516

                        #12
                        a spring loaded ball bearing ... VERY light one to hold the front of the bolt still when it just fires normally. Light enough to come loose if it hits a paintball of course.
                        "I'll see it when I believe it"

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                        • BenD
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 94

                          #13
                          can you explain a little more person... im confused
                          Help me! :)

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                          • nak81783
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 782

                            #14
                            Air Hole Alignment

                            I was thinking along the same lines as Vegeta. Plus with the front and rear part of the bolt traveling differently, when the striker hits the pin to open the valve, the holes that let air into the bolt would not be aligned properly. This would obviously cause a poor shot, if it shot at all.

                            Nathan
                            Last of the Salzburg Clan

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                            • BenD
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 94

                              #15
                              depending on spring though i think


                              if the front part didnt move backwards as the back went forwards, it could easily be lined up perfect....
                              Help me! :)

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